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MDAV28 said:
Like I said I believe it's important to hammer the defensive identity. That is how the Jazz win. Luwawu provides both.
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Right now we have nobody to even bother premier wing players like Durant or Lebron(KD shoots over everybody on our roster and LeBron overpowers everybody). I wish we had somebody we can put on them and make life a bit harder for them(that's not to say that KD and LBJ could be stopped, but at least make them work for what they get). A 6'8" wing with 7'3" wingspan like Luwawu might actually have a chance...
 
stitches said:
A 6'8" wing with 7'3" wingspan like Luwawu might actually have a chance...
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No he wouldn't. And then if he isn't good offensively those elite guys you mentioned don't have to work on that end to guard Gobert, favors, exum, Hayward, and luwawu. Pack the paint like crazy and double hayward. Piece of cake.
 
stitches said:
Right now we have nobody to even bother premier wing players like Durant or Lebron(KD shoots over everybody on our roster and LeBron overpowers everybody). I wish we had somebody we can put on them and make life a bit harder for them(that's not to say that KD and LBJ could be stopped, but at least make them work for what they get). A 6'8" wing with 7'3" wingspan like Luwawu might actually have a chance...
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The Luwawu myth keeps growing. He's probably 6'6" in shoes with a 6'11" wingspan. I've watched a lot of footage, he's not Lebron James height lol
 
Jazz4ever said:
The Luwawu myth keeps growing. He's probably 6'6" in shoes with a 6'11" wingspan. I've watched a lot of footage, he's not Lebron James height lol
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Oh, I'm sorry. Is that not true? I think I read somebody post his measurements here? If not, I stand corrected.


edit: draftexpress has him at 6'7", with wingspan of 7'2", which is almost identical to Kawhi.
 
fishonjazz said:
Couldn't they also win by playing good defense and great offense? More than one way to skin a cat imo and last year I saw a lot of ugly *** offense.

Sometimes you can hide a bad defender and you can have a great defensive scheme and defensive minded coach.

You always need to put the ball in the hoop though. I think great offense beats great defense quite often. I often see a player play perfect defense and still get scored on by better offense.

But neither one of us is right or wrong. We just have different perspectives and preferences.

I have always liked offense better than defense (in football too), it's just my preference.
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I think it's mostly a misunderstanding. You have to be able to score more than the opposition, obviously. I'm in no way suggesting you ignore the offensive end. I do believe a perimeter 3-and-D in today's NBA provides a lot more value than it used to which is why I see more value in Luwawu than the Kork guy. 3-and-D wing something our team is missing and something that can help.
 
fishonjazz said:
No he wouldn't. And then if he isn't good offensively those elite guys you mentioned don't have to work on that end to guard Gobert, favors, exum, Hayward, and luwawu. Pack the paint like crazy and double hayward. Piece of cake.
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He hit +40% catch-and-shoot. You cannot pack the paint on that.
 
MDAV28 said:
I think it's mostly a misunderstanding. You have to be able to score more than the opposition, obviously. I'm in no way suggesting you ignore the offensive end. I do believe a perimeter 3-and-D in today's NBA provides a lot more value than it used to which is why I see more value in Luwawu than the Kork guy. 3-and-D wing something our team is missing and something that can help.
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Ya I think it was a misunderstanding. I was saying that if you can only one of three, or D, not both, then I take the great shooter that isn't as good of a defender over the great defender that is a poor shooter. I think shooting is more of a need for the jazz than defense.
 
stitches said:
Oh, I'm sorry. Is that not true? I think I read somebody post his measurements here? If not, I stand corrected.


edit: draftexpress has him at 6'7", with wingspan of 7'2", which is almost identical to Kawhi.
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Luwawu said himself (I don't think there are any sure measurements) that he is 6'7" w/o shoes and I've heard a wingspan of 6'11" to 7'3".
 
fishonjazz said:
Ya I think it was a misunderstanding. I was saying that if you can only one of three, or D, not both, then I take the great shooter that isn't as good of a defender over the great defender that is a poor shooter. I think shooting is more of a need for the jazz than defense.
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Alright that's cleared up, makes sense.
 
MDAV28 said:
Luwawu said himself (I don't think there are any sure measurements) that he is 6'7" w/o shoes and I've heard a wingspan of 6'11" to 7'3".
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Sounds legit. So we draft him on that and find out he was measuring from the top of that haircut. Whoops!
 
Jazz4ever said:
Sounds legit. So we draft him on that and find out he was measuring from the top of that haircut. Whoops!
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:D

Sounds good. But no, seriously... I bet he will have some sort of a pro-day like Porzingis had last year where he will get measured. I doubt teams would draft him based on what he says.
 
I kind of think of Luwawu as a Sefolosha-type of player.
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If the Jazz with Exum and Gobert can replicate the defense they played when they led a dominant Utah team defensively,then another defensive player isn't needed.Jazz need another offensive weapon for the close games they lose in the 4th quarter.
 
tleikheen said:
If the Jazz with Exum and Gobert can replicate the defense they played when they led a dominant Utah team defensively,then another defensive player isn't needed.Jazz need another offensive weapon for the close games they lose in the 4th quarter.
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The reason we were losing the close games was not the offense, which was about average for the league. It was the defense which in the last 5 minutes of a close games couldn't stop anybody (121 defensive rating).
 
tleikheen said:
If the Jazz with Exum and Gobert can replicate the defense they played when they led a dominant Utah team defensively,then another defensive player isn't needed.Jazz need another offensive weapon for the close games they lose in the 4th quarter.
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Elijah is an often forgotten piece of that defensive run. He would come in 15-20 minutes and pick up the opposing teams best perimeter player.
 
I just checked Mega Leks' schedule - they have 1 more game on Tuesday and Luwawu will be done with the season in Europe. I wonder if he will come over for private workouts with teams or for a pro-day?

According to his team's site he's 202cm, which would be 6'7.5" and 88.8kg which is 196lbs. He's kind of slim if those are true numbers.
 
The reason we were losing the close games was not the offense, which was about average for the league. It was the defense which in the last 5 minutes of a close games couldn't stop anybody (121 defensive rating).
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a healthy 6'6" stronger Exum guarding PG's should help that ,Gobert seem to be alot more effective when he had Exum guarding the elite PG's in front of him
 
Interesting tweets from the guy who does the DraftExpress scouting videos
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tleikheen said:
a healthy 6'6" stronger Exum guarding PG's should help that ,Gobert seem to be alot more effective when he had Exum guarding the elite PG's in front of him
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If Exum alone can get that number where it should be we have the 2016/2017 DPOY on our roster.
 
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