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Following 2016 potential draftees

King Cy said:
Skal needs to add toughness, not dribbling ability.
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He at least has a couple of go-to moves with the hook shots and the mid-range jumper. I don't think he's quite as passive as PJ3 was. I think I'd take him ahead of Maker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl8vvkc535A
 
You know, the more I look into Wade Baldwin the more I'm starting to like him. I could see him flourishing on the Jazz team but for that to happen Burke, Neto and Mack all need to go. It probably won't happen but just saying. Wade Baldwin has some of the 'it' factor and compares his game style to Westbrook. He's interview with Givony of DX was quite nice.
 
Here's the annual controversial draft-day trade idea:

--Jazz move Derrick Favors for a top-4 pick, draft Murray or Hield
--Jazz stay at 12, draft Chriss, Davis, Maker or Skal

Why? Because Lyles can start at the 4. Favors is only average and is replaceable as a C and is otherwise too good to be a back-up PF. Jazz can pick up a back-up big in free agency.

Jazz come away with two players who have All Star or borderline All Star potential to put next to Gobert, Exum, Hood, Lyles and Hayward.
 
No way the Jazz trade Favors for low potential players like Hield and Murray. If they do a Favors trade it's for Bender, Simmons, or Ingram.
 
King Cy said:
Skal needs to add toughness, not dribbling ability.
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People sometimes mistake lack of strength for lack of toughness. For example last year some thought Porzingis wasn't tough enough(lets say it straight up - a lot of people thought he was soft), because of his lackluster rebounding numbers, when the reality was he just needed to add strength and some mass to his body in order to be purely physically able to match up. I'm not saying that's the case with Skal, but it could be. He doesn't seem to shy away from physical contact, at least defensively. Has great contests around the rim, goes body to body and keeps verticality. I hope we get to work him out so our coaching staff would have the chance to test him on whatever they need to see.
 
fishonjazz said:
anyone with espn insider that wants to tell us what chad ford had to say about Buddy Hield, Kris Dunn, Marquese Chriss, Henry Ellenson, Jakob Poeltl and Tyler Ulis from his article today?

https://espn.go.com/nba/insider/sto...kris-dunn-marquese-chriss-more-2016-nba-draft
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Buddy Hield, SG, Sr., Oklahoma

Hield spent his entire senior season getting the biggest compliment any draft prospect could receive. College basketball analysts dubbed him the "Steph Curry" of NCAA hoops.

The two-time reigning MVP has big shoes to fill, and Hield doesn't seem shy about trying to fill them. His elite shooting with deep, deep range combined with a confidence that borders just on the right side of cocky make for obvious comparisons.

When these guys get rolling, there's little opposing defenses can do to stop them. And the work ethic of both players is legendary.

In his workout in Anaheim, California, on Tuesday, Hield certainly looked the part as a shooter. He rarely missed shots, regardless of where he was on the floor. When the NBA 3-point line became boring (a line that is typically intimidating for college shooters, regardless of their skill), he was comfortable stepping back another five feet and hitting 20-of-25 from "Curry range" in one drill. And Hield did it with all the confidence that he showed at Oklahoma last season. He believes he can be special; great shooters need that level of confidence.

His confidence and quick release make him arguably the best shooter in this draft. In a league desperate for shooters, that only makes him a more attractive lottery pick.

He also knows that the Curry comparison isn't a perfect fit. Curry is an elite ball handler with crazy good court vision. Hield's handle and court vision have been criticized by scouts. And while Curry isn't an all-NBA defender, his effort on that end clearly surpasses Hield's right now.

Of course, when Curry entered the league, virtually every scout worried about similar things: Is he a point guard? Can he defend anyone?

Hield hears the criticism and has been spending most of the past six weeks tightening up his handle and working on his explosiveness in an effort to improve his lateral quickness. He has even received some on-court tutoring from Kobe Bryant.

Both efforts are coming along nicely. Hield looked terrific in a number of ball handling drills, and while I didn't get to see him play defense (he was in a one-on-none workout), he seemed confident he was going to address his defensive deficiencies in the NBA.

"My freshman year I was a good defender," Hield said. "My sophomore, junior and senior year I turned into a scorer. I took a step back the last three years.

"But if you want something you go and get it. I know in the NBA there will be a lot of 2-guards coming at me. I know I have to stop them to stay on the court. Defense comes from your heart inside. ... I have a lot of heart.

"I'm not going to let anyone take advantage of me. That's how it's always been for me growing up. So I'm going to do what I have to do when I get there and I don't think defense will be a problem for me."
 
stitches said:
People sometimes mistake lack of strength for lack of toughness. For example last year some thought Porzingis wasn't tough enough(lets say it straight up - a lot of people thought he was soft), because of his lackluster rebounding numbers, when the reality was he just needed to add strength and some mass to his body in order to be purely physically able to match up. I'm not saying that's the case with Skal, but it could be. He doesn't seem to shy away from physical contact, at least defensively. Has great contests around the rim, goes body to body and keeps verticality. I hope we get to work him out so our coaching staff would have the chance to test him on whatever they need to see.
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There have been plenty of skinny college bigs who have dominated. He lacks toughness, both mental and physical.
 
White Chocolate said:
Buddy Hield, SG, Sr., Oklahoma

Hield spent his entire senior season getting the biggest compliment any draft prospect could receive. College basketball analysts dubbed him the "Steph Curry" of NCAA hoops.

The two-time reigning MVP has big shoes to fill, and Hield doesn't seem shy about trying to fill them. His elite shooting with deep, deep range combined with a confidence that borders just on the right side of cocky make for obvious comparisons.

When these guys get rolling, there's little opposing defenses can do to stop them. And the work ethic of both players is legendary.

In his workout in Anaheim, California, on Tuesday, Hield certainly looked the part as a shooter. He rarely missed shots, regardless of where he was on the floor. When the NBA 3-point line became boring (a line that is typically intimidating for college shooters, regardless of their skill), he was comfortable stepping back another five feet and hitting 20-of-25 from "Curry range" in one drill. And Hield did it with all the confidence that he showed at Oklahoma last season. He believes he can be special; great shooters need that level of confidence.

His confidence and quick release make him arguably the best shooter in this draft. In a league desperate for shooters, that only makes him a more attractive lottery pick.

He also knows that the Curry comparison isn't a perfect fit. Curry is an elite ball handler with crazy good court vision. Hield's handle and court vision have been criticized by scouts. And while Curry isn't an all-NBA defender, his effort on that end clearly surpasses Hield's right now.

Of course, when Curry entered the league, virtually every scout worried about similar things: Is he a point guard? Can he defend anyone?

Hield hears the criticism and has been spending most of the past six weeks tightening up his handle and working on his explosiveness in an effort to improve his lateral quickness. He has even received some on-court tutoring from Kobe Bryant.

Both efforts are coming along nicely. Hield looked terrific in a number of ball handling drills, and while I didn't get to see him play defense (he was in a one-on-none workout), he seemed confident he was going to address his defensive deficiencies in the NBA.

"My freshman year I was a good defender," Hield said. "My sophomore, junior and senior year I turned into a scorer. I took a step back the last three years.

"But if you want something you go and get it. I know in the NBA there will be a lot of 2-guards coming at me. I know I have to stop them to stay on the court. Defense comes from your heart inside. ... I have a lot of heart.

"I'm not going to let anyone take advantage of me. That's how it's always been for me growing up. So I'm going to do what I have to do when I get there and I don't think defense will be a problem for me."
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Love that guy.
 
Catchall said:
Here's the annual controversial draft-day trade idea:

--Jazz move Derrick Favors for a top-4 pick, draft Murray or Hield

Why? Because Lyles can start at the 4.
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Favors is solid both sides of the ball and at a bargain. I'd rather keep him.

But, using your argument, Jazz could trade Hayward instead for the 3rd or 4th pick (1 and 2 are impossible to get).
Why? Because Hood can start at the 3.



And with Hayward gone that frees up a bench spot for Hield or Murray or whoever.
 
Luwawu did not play again today. Wonder if injury is serious enough to stop him from coming over and working out.

Zagorac had 20 and 8 against the best team in Serbia. I would love him with our first second round pick, but think he will go before that. Would not be shocked to see him go end of first. Especially a team like the Spurs.
 
BENTLEY said:
Favors is solid both sides of the ball and at a bargain. I'd rather keep him.

But, using your argument, Jazz could trade Hayward instead for the 3rd or 4th pick (1 and 2 are impossible to get).
Why? Because Hood can start at the 3.



And with Hayward gone that frees up a bench spot for Hield or Murray or whoever.
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True, but a) Hayward is a better overall player than Favors, and b) Lyles is going to start taking minutes from Favors this season, whereas Hayward doesn't have anyone challenging him for minutes at the SF.


A line-up with Exum/Murray/Hayward/Lyles/Gobert with Hood and Davis/Maker coming off the bench is a good, balanced line-up.
 
Catchall said:
True, but a) Hayward is a better overall player than Favors, and b) Lyles is going to start taking minutes from Favors this season, whereas Hayward doesn't have anyone challenging him for minutes at the SF.


A line-up with Exum/Murray/Hayward/Lyles/Gobert with Hood and Davis/Maker coming off the bench is a good, balanced line-up.
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U actually think Murray would start over Hood as a rookie? I see him as more a career 6th man or good role player.
stitches said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSsmA-bJ4p8
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I'm all in on Maker. It would be interesting having him and Lyles playing together in the second unit. U could really play a wide open game and spread the floor and create serious matchup problems and out small ball the GSW's while still playing a traditional type of lineup.
 
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