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Also getting just a solid rotation player on a rookie contract will go a long way to helping us with our upcoming cap crunch.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think he will actually be better in the pros than college. If you play basketball you know how hard it is to attack zone defenses and defenses that are just so packed in.

Give a smart kid like him with all the physical tools he has a coach that will coach him up and work with him on his game... Sky is the limit.
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6'11 wingspan, already a good defender, 1.25 pps off of catch and shoot opportunities...work him off ball at first, and he'll develop his other skills at the same time. Klay Thompson could hardly do more than shoot coming in, it's not unheard of for guys to significantly improve their handle.
 
#bern said:
6'11 wingspan, already a good defender, 1.25 pps off of catch and shoot opportunities...work him off ball at first, and he'll develop his other skills at the same time. Klay Thompson could hardly do more than shoot coming in, it's not unheard of for guys to significantly improve their handle.
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Your handle is definitely one of the harder skills to significantly improve.

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#bern said:
6'11 wingspan, already a good defender, 1.25 pps off of catch and shoot opportunities...work him off ball at first, and he'll develop his other skills at the same time. Klay Thompson could hardly do more than shoot coming in, it's not unheard of for guys to significantly improve their handle.
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Baldwin's shot is nowhere near Klay level(even from college). I have my doubts that he will translate it to anywhere near 40%. The analytics projections I've seen have him at ~35% in the league, which is alright but not great. Also... I've said that before and I keep saying it - it is incredibly dangerous to assume that the guy you draft will have the development curve of a outlier and Klay is the ultimate outlier - this type of improvement has almost never happened.
 
stitches said:
Baldwin's shot is nowhere near Klay level(even from college). I have my doubts that he will translate it to anywhere near 40%. The analytics projections I've seen have him at ~35% in the league, which is alright but not great. Also... I've said that before and I keep saying it - it is incredibly dangerous to assume that the guy you draft will have the development curve of a outlier and Klay is the ultimate outlier - this type of improvement has almost never happened.
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give Baldwin an early-Kawhi role. Off-ball. Catch-and-shoot. Projections on him are hard (for me) to interpret because how are they anticipating his opportunities? As a PG with a steady diet of off-the-dribble, etc?
 
#bern said:
6'11 wingspan, already a good defender, 1.25 pps off of catch and shoot opportunities...work him off ball at first, and he'll develop his other skills at the same time. Klay Thompson could hardly do more than shoot coming in, it's not unheard of for guys to significantly improve their handle.
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He isn't that good of defender, mostly average.

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Listening to David Locke, he seems to suggest that Sabonis is rated higher than Poeltl by Toronto at #9. Locke seems to suggest that Dejounte Murray is a serious possibility at #10 with Milwaukee, that they would take Murray over Poeltl.

The players he mentions in play at #12 are Korkmaz, Richardson, Poeltl, Baldwin, Davis and Zizic. No mention of Skal, though maybe he thinks Skal will go #11 to Orlando.
 
He has a lot of defensive potential, but he doesn't have the best fundamentals or instincts

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Here's some boilerplate language on Baldwin: I think he's a rotation player and borderline starter who needs to play primarily off the ball like Danny Green, Patrick Beverly or George Hill, basically a 3D guard. The question is whether he'll be a good enough shooter if he has to shoot off the bounce, if he'll be able to get to the rim and finish, and if his slightly diva attitude makes it likely for him to accept that role.
 
Catchall said:
Listening to David Locke, he seems to suggest that Sabonis is rated higher than Poeltl by Toronto at #9. Locke seems to suggest that Dejounte Murray is a serious possibility at #10 with Milwaukee, that they would take Murray over Poeltl.

The players he mentions in play at #12 are Korkmaz, Richardson, Poeltl, Baldwin, Davis and Zizic. No mention of Skal, though maybe he thinks Skal will go #11 to Orlando.
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Well, if all that's true, then I guess Poeltl could fall to us.

Would anyone NOT be okay with picking Poeltl at 12?

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Handlogten's Heros said:
Also getting just a solid rotation player on a rookie contract will go a long way to helping us with our upcoming cap crunch.
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Upcoming cap crunch? Nah, we should have signed matthews, carroll, or Danny green to a huge contract last summer and next summer we should give Hayward the 5 year super max.
Then we will just max favors, gobert, exum, hood, and lyles when their contracts are up.

Cap crunch? No such thing under the new salary cap that is coming. Hell, we need to worry more about just getting to the salary floor.

 
Catchall said:
Listening to David Locke, he seems to suggest that Sabonis is rated higher than Poeltl by Toronto at #9. Locke seems to suggest that Dejounte Murray is a serious possibility at #10 with Milwaukee, that they would take Murray over Poeltl.

The players he mentions in play at #12 are Korkmaz, Richardson, Poeltl, Baldwin, Davis and Zizic. No mention of Skal, though maybe he thinks Skal will go #11 to Orlando.
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No mention of thon?
 
Catchall said:
Listening to David Locke, he seems to suggest that Sabonis is rated higher than Poeltl by Toronto at #9. Locke seems to suggest that Dejounte Murray is a serious possibility at #10 with Milwaukee, that they would take Murray over Poeltl.

The players he mentions in play at #12 are Korkmaz, Richardson, Poeltl, Baldwin, Davis and Zizic. No mention of Skal, though maybe he thinks Skal will go #11 to Orlando.
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Give me Davis out of that group.

I'm starting to like Beasley....
 
All these guys have questions. I would take Poeltl since I see him as a good rotational big and probably the least amount of bust factor at this spot.

Overall, this just isn't a strong draft especially once you get past the eight pick.
 
spycam1 said:
Your handle is definitely one of the harder skills to significantly improve.

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I know, and I've even said so. But it is possible. He's still young (6 months older than DMurray), and has a higher bball IQ, is a significantly better shooter and defender, but it's not like he doesn't have tons of room to improve. My biggest point is that even if he doesn't improve his handle, he still has legitimate starter skills in the NBA. Now let's say DMurray doesn't improve, which is unlikely (just like with Baldwin)...does he do anything that says he could be a starter or useful role player? I think Baldwin is both safer and has a higher ceiling.
 
Baldwin has a diva attitude? I love this place.

I can't really think of any player in this draft that has a diva attitude tbh. I'm also not a behavior anyalyst, and I don't know these guys. Quit reaching.
 
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