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spycam1 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6daTCELDg0

I don't think his shot is that unorthodox. I really believe the main issue is that he doesn't jump high enough when he shoots. He gets no power behind his shot, then will sometimes try to compensate with funky arm movements. It's fixable, imo.
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It doesn't look right. His follow through looks good though. And you're right, sometimes he shoots on the way down and sometimes it's on the way up. Maybe that's all...but I don't like how his arms move when he shoots, something seems off.

EDIT: I think it's his arms. He doesn't pull back his arms and it almost makes it like a push shot.
 
Weezur said:
It doesn't look right. His follow through looks good though. And you're right, sometimes he shoots on the way down and sometimes it's on the way up. Maybe that's all...but I don't like how his arms move when he shoots, something seems off.

EDIT: I think it's his arms. He doesn't pull back his arms and it almost makes it like a push shot.
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Yeah, it's a weird shot no doubt. Seems a bit to rigid too me, but it's not that unorthodox.
 
He shoots with his arms. I know that sounds funny but a good shooter shoots with their body and their arms are an extension of their body. He jumps but seems to flick the ball at the basket with his arms. If I was his coach i would work with him shooting with a motion from the jump to the follow through. Would get a lot more power behind his shot.
 
Xthren said:
He shoots with his arms. I know that sounds funny but a good shooter shoots with their body and their arms are an extension of their body. He jumps but seems to flick the ball at the basket with his arms. If I was his coach i would work with him shooting with a motion from the jump to the follow through. Would get a lot more power behind his shot.
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Basically what I've been saying.
 
Xthren said:
I am going to throw out a second round sleeper Elias Harris from gonzaga. He was a first round talent last year but didn't improve from a good freshman year. He could be had in the second round if he comes out. Good 3 pt shooter too.
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I love Gonzaga, my fav college team by far. I like Elias too! Although, they have kind of killed this kids development. They forced him to play PF and it has not been that great for him. He was awesome as a freshman, he showed good athleticism and a decent 3 point shot, rebounded well. He went from a potential 1st round back when he was a fresh, to a probable 2nd round pick after his senior year. Sad story.
 
Anybody like Terrence Ross? He is a pretty athletic guy that can shoot well too.

Also, has Marquise Teague unimpressed everyone this much? I remember they used to say he was much more of a pure PG then his brother. But, it seems the knock is he can't run half-court offenses very well?

I'm not huge on combo guards but, Tony Wroten's shot doesn't look like it is totally garbage as far as mechanics go. He is actually a pretty good passer. If he could improve his shooting (and only if he could improve his shooting) I would like him.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
As pg's go, and because Harris has turned me off to scoring pg's who can't run an offense, unless we are drafting Rivers to play sg I want no part of him. Teague can't run an offense, I don't have interest in him. I have no Knowledge of this Kabongo. That leaves Marshall, unless Kabongo has really good pg skills Marshall is the tops in the pg pool. PKM, where do you see Marshall going in the draft.

As long as GS is outside the top 7 it's looking like we will have two picks in the lottery as the Jazz schedule only gets tougher. Dont get me wrong I'm hoping they make the playoffs, but I'm starting to wonder if they will win enough games. If this plays out, my dream draft would be KG, Sullinger and trade Harris or someone for another pick for Marshall. This team has a chance to be the cream of the crop in a few years.
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My guess would be around 20.
 
follow up .. stats from last night.

UK
- Davis - 15pts 8rbs 7blks
- MKG - 4pts 7rbs 1ast 1stl 1blk
- Teague - 13pts 4rbs 8asts 1to
- TJones - 14pts 9rbs 2stls 4blks
- DLamb - 16pts
- DMiller - 5pts 2rbs 2asts

UConn
- Drummond - 13pts 7rbs 2blks
- JLamb - 18pts 3rbs 2stls (2/10 from 3)
- Napier - 11pts 7 asts

OSU
- Sullinger - 17pts 16rbs (10to's)

Baylor
- PJonesIII - 4pts (2/12) 7rbs 2asts
- QMiller - 20pts 7rbs 3stls

UNC
- Barnes - 14pts (/15) 11rbs
- Zeller - 25pts 9rbs 3asts 3stls 1blk
- Marshall - 5pts 2rbs 6asts
- Henson - 10pts 10rbs 4blks

UF
- Young - 7pts 8rbs 2blks
- Beal - 16pts (1/5 from 3) 8rbs 3asts 2stls 1blk

Duke
- Rivers - 11pts 1rb 4asts 1stl

Kansas
- TRobinson - 24pts 14rbs 2asts 1blk (someone asked earlier .. I'd take TR before Sullinger all day)

UNLV
- Moser - 19pts 9rbs 2asts 6stls 4blks (wow)

Miss St
- Moultrie - 12pts 6rbs
- Hood - 8pts 4rbs 3asts

Texas
- Kabongo - 13pts 1rb 3asts 5to's
 
Dwill4mvp said:
Anybody like Terrence Ross? He is a pretty athletic guy that can shoot well too.
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He's okay. I'd take him high teens, but I'm not convinced he'll translate well .. bbIQ is questionable.

Dwill4mvp said:
Also, has Marquise Teague unimpressed everyone this much? I remember they used to say he was much more of a pure PG then his brother. But, it seems the knock is he can't run half-court offenses very well?
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Teague, at one point, was ranked #1 prep player in the nation. At one point, he was mock drafted to go as high as #3. What we've learned is he can't shoot and his bbIQ is not on par with elite PG's. Having said that, his stats in the past 10 games are literally twice as good (scoring/assists/turnovers) as the beginning of the year. I don't think he'll ever be a great NBA pg .. but I think he'll get a lot better than I thought he would just a month ago.

Dwill4mvp said:
I'm not huge on combo guards but, Tony Wroten's shot doesn't look like it is totally garbage as far as mechanics go. He is actually a pretty good passer. If he could improve his shooting (and only if he could improve his shooting) I would like him.
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His shot his hot, smelly, rancid trash. I predict it always will be. I also think Marshall has a much better chance of fixing his shot which makes him a smarter pick, imo. Yes, Wroten makes nice passes (fun to watch) but I think he's a SG (with no shot) trying to be a PG. I pass .. unless he's a 2nd round pick.

EDIT: Also, Wroten's 20% 3pt shooting and 56% FT shooting tells the story entirely.
 
I have been noticing that Millers name is rising on Chad Fords board. I know that many don't trust his board but I think that overall trends are accurate.
 
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