Following potential 2012 draftees
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Drummond and Favors just seem kind of redundant. I'm not sure which one has more skills at this point, Davis or Drummond.
orangello
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So what combination do you like more, Davis/Favors or Drummond/Favors?
Favors seems to have a work ethic and a fairly disciplined approach to the game.
IDK. I have yet to see Drummond play at all. Davis right now doesn't have a lot of skills, but I can tell he has a decent IQ. His length is insane and his body looks like it has the potential to be KG-esque. He can handle the ball well for his size, but he still has no shooting skills (or at least I haven't seen them). He is shooting below 50% from the FT line, and has yet to make a jumpshot from the 3 UK games I've (partially) watched. UK defense is really good without Davis, but it is insane with him.
Drummond already has an NBA ready body, and then some. He is rebounding like crazy, and blocking shots like crazy. He seems to have even less of a shot than Davis though. He is shooting 25% from FT's and 40% from the field.
I would assume Drummond is a center because he is listed at 6'11 275 lbs, which is just ridiculous amount of size. That would slide Favors to PF. The amount of mass would just be insane.
I would assume Davis would be a PF, making Favors a center.
Hard choice.
orangello
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From a pure size perspective, Favors and Drummond sound like a championship combo.
You have a great point about Davis. He seems yo have a high bball IQ. I honestly feel that Davis and Favors might be a better combo. I see Davis actually really devolping his skills.
I just wonder about Drummond. Basketball seems to be too easy for him and because of that he seems lazy on the court. Realistically, he should be dominating the competition.
orangello
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Before the draft, Favors work ethic and drive were in question. From the sounds and looks of the offseason, he has proven that analysis wrong, but it was a huge concern.
spycam1
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Doesn't matter. Neither are happening. We have a Favors/Kanter combo. Give it a chance people.
orangello
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With no season at all right now (and no real hope for one either), all I have left is my dreams.
I'd take Davis/Favors or Drummond/Favors over Kanter/Favors any day.
Totally meaningless trivia .. which of Wall, Knight, or Teague had the highest number of turnovers in their first four games under Calipari? All tied at 18. A tough transition from HS ball to, what NBA scouts and GM's call 'pro-style ball.'
Just an observation .. and a mere glimmer of hope on an otherwise bleak situation.
By the way, today Cal yanked Teague from the game for running the wrong offensive play (that led to a TO). When Marquis went to the bench he got a major earful from Cal .. including Cal telling him to sit the **** down. Teague explained that he was, in fact, running the 'loop offense' .. at that point Cal recognized that he had not yet explained the difference of the "loop zone attack" vs. the "loop in transition." Understanding why Teague was confused, Cal promptly (prior to Teague taking a seat) apologized .. and more politely told him to sit down.
I'm still dowm on Teague, but it was a moment that brought me back to reality about how young these kids are and how they work their asses off for their scholly, for our entertainment, and a shot at the big time.
Here's to wishing them ALL the best this year and in life.
Just an observation .. and a mere glimmer of hope on an otherwise bleak situation.
By the way, today Cal yanked Teague from the game for running the wrong offensive play (that led to a TO). When Marquis went to the bench he got a major earful from Cal .. including Cal telling him to sit the **** down. Teague explained that he was, in fact, running the 'loop offense' .. at that point Cal recognized that he had not yet explained the difference of the "loop zone attack" vs. the "loop in transition." Understanding why Teague was confused, Cal promptly (prior to Teague taking a seat) apologized .. and more politely told him to sit down.
I'm still dowm on Teague, but it was a moment that brought me back to reality about how young these kids are and how they work their asses off for their scholly, for our entertainment, and a shot at the big time.
Here's to wishing them ALL the best this year and in life.
orangello
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I thought that it might be helpful to read some things about both Favors and Drummond. They do have very similar weaknesses.
Drummond:
https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Andre-Drummond-5772/
From NBAdraft.net
Weaknesses: Hype at a young age is never good ... He could end up his own worst enemy if he buys into the hype and decides he doesn't want to work hard to be the best player he can become ... He's so naturally gifted, that he can be a solid pro without putting much work in. Does he have the hunger to be great is the big question ... His range on his shot and consistency are something he will need to develop over the next few seasons ... Developing a killer instinct to take over games will allow him to become dominant at both ends of the floor ... Another key will be continuing to work at his body, getting stronger and putting on good weight.
Favors:
https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Derrick-Favors-1335/
From NBAdraft.net (prior to draft)
Weaknesses: Has done a good job adding bulk to his frame, but needs to continue to get stronger ... Needs to increase trajectory on his jumper and increasing his range would be beneficial ... Ball handling is decent for a big, but must be improved to augment his face up game ... Continued advancement of his footwork and comfort level in the post ... Seems to predetermine moves rather than reacting to the defense ... Does not handle double teams well ... Needs to slow the game down and not panic ... Not a great passer out of the post. Has relied heavily on his athletic gifts up to this stage against inferior competition ... Needs to work harder and understand court positioning ... Can be lazy at times defensively and on the boards depending on his length and leaping ability ... Stands too upright and his lateral movement is sloppy ... His conditioning has been questioned, often tiring in the latter stages of games.
spycam1
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You just said you have not seen Drummond play yet can make such an assertion. Ok then.
I haven't seen Kanter play in a competitive game either. At least I have stats (against competition I know) for Drummond.
I just hope Kanter will soon be playing somewhere in this world soon. Hopefully with a NBA out.
Haha, good for Hood. Hope he kicks butt in every game we don't play.