Clearly Paul and AJ would be expendable under this scenario and could help with the PG situation.
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Clearly Paul and AJ would be expendable under this scenario and could help with the PG situation.
orangello
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I would hope so. If we could get Leonard, Miller and Rivers out of this draft even if we lost Millsap and Harris, we come out ahead, IMO.
Hantlers
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Well yeah, but who does help the PG problem? I'm not a big fan of Marshall, I like Rivers but I'm still not convinced he ran run the point effectively, I know nothing about Machado, I'd like to study Lillard some more....there's just not a lot of PG help in this draft or the coming draft. We'd be better off taking a big man and trading Paul or AJ for PG help.
Meyers Leonard = Cole Aldrich
Hantlers
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Except Meyers Leonard is much, much more athletic than Aldrich. Oh and the fact that he has an outside shot, oh and that he can actually dribble halfway decently for a big man. Essentially their only similarities is that they're tall white men.
This guy averages 8 rebounds per game in the Big 10, ugggh. He seems soft to me. Aldrich is a stiff, this guy looks like a cream puff. Same results will be the D-League for both.
Hantlers
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Either way their playing styles are completely different. It was a terrible comparison.
I think I'm back on the Marshall bandwagon. I don't think Kanter or Favors are ever going to become dominant scorers, especially if they don't ever have a good PG. We need someone who can give our big guys easy looks.
Weezur
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Haha, so true. GS is playing great and Monta is playing MVP basketball right now.
spycam1
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I've changed my mind on that bandwagon more times than Romney.
Weezur
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Same here. His passing is going to translate well in the NBA but I just really wish that his shooting could be fixed. Even if it's not 40% from 3...I just want his shot mechanics fixed.
I could get there under two conditions;
1) we trade down, get something of value, and pick him up outside the lottery
2). With another pick, get Miller or Barnes
If we can't get a SF shooter than I think Marshall is a poor pick up for the Jazz. Not sure what good it does to pick up a pass-only guy if we have no one that can hit a damn shot.
NOT the '12 draft ('13), but check out Nerlens Noel. He just reclassified from the prep class of '13 to '12 and many recruiting analysts are saying he'll likely bump Shabazz from the #1 spot in the rankings. One NBA scout said he's the best shot blocker he has EVER seen. 6'10 ... not necessarily a Jazz need or potential get .. just going all OT on y'all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ruwvp07yI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ruwvp07yI
Gyp Rosetti
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Wow. It takes a lot to impress me and after one minute, i was extremely impressed...a great handle for a guy 6'10"...he moved in a very quick, yet seemingly effortless manner, had a few great passes, attacked the rim off the dribble, and most importantly, had a kickass fro.
Some players I'm curious about...not sure if they've been mentioned much. Thoughts on them?
1) Tyshawn Taylor...5.1 assists...47.9% from floor/43.1% from three...poor FT shooting but he could improve there based on his other numbers I'd think. Assuming his ceiling isn't so high.
2) Hollis Thompson...47.5% from three...6'8"...5.5 rebounds per...insane shooting for a 6'8" guy who can rebound some.
3) Jae Crowder...6'6"...16.2 points on 50% from the floor, 7.6 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 2.3 steals, 1.0 blocks...only 1.2 turnovers...very well-rounded...Marquette seems to produce fundamentally sound, selfless guys who care about winning. This guy intrigues me the most from the little research I've done...I'm not saying with a top 10 pick but still.
Gyp Rosetti
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^
Sort of reminds me of a better Shawn Kemp. A post-up game, great timing on his shot blocking, everything about him looks just very natural. Can he shoot at all? If he could develop a shot, he'll be sick.
Sort of reminds me of a better Shawn Kemp. A post-up game, great timing on his shot blocking, everything about him looks just very natural. Can he shoot at all? If he could develop a shot, he'll be sick.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
43% is not blistering at the collegiate level. A ton of guys do it.
Tyshawn won't do anything in the NBA. Doesn't have the drive and he has gotten suspended for off-court stuff each year he's been at Kansas. I have zero faith he'll amount to anything more than a poor backup.
Hollis is promising. He needs to tighten up his dribble to be at all effective in the NBA, needs to get stronger, but I see him being able to play .. don't see starter on a decent team.
Crowder I like. I worry about his size as he tends to play a bit closer to the rim. I'm unsure what position he would play, but he's got a very well rounded game. I've been impressed.
Gotta run ..
orangello
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Can someone please talk me off the ledge. After games like last nights for the Jazz, I am worried that it doesn't matter who the Jazz add to their line up, things will still be the same. Let me explain, I was listening to DJ and PK this morning (I know that a lot of you do not like PK at all, but hear me out) and Pk mentioned something that was though provoking for me. He mentioned that Hayward only played 16 minutes last night because he was struggling. Then he went on to ask why Millsap and Jefferson didn't have their minutes cut more because they were struggling also. Last night Millsap played 24 minutes and was -20. Jefferson played 28 and was -12. The Jazz as a whole were not going to win that game. Favors played 18 and was +2. In all fairness Kanter played 20 and was -14.
My point is why do we even care about who the Jazz draft this upcoming draft? Are they going to get the same treatment that the current young players are getting? I was say yes. If that is the case then it is going to be closer to 4 years before we see in drastic improvements in these kids and by that time we could be losing Favors or even Hayward and possibly others.
My point is why do we even care about who the Jazz draft this upcoming draft? Are they going to get the same treatment that the current young players are getting? I was say yes. If that is the case then it is going to be closer to 4 years before we see in drastic improvements in these kids and by that time we could be losing Favors or even Hayward and possibly others.