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Following potential 2012 draftees

lulz I'm serious. He seems like a jerk, but the type of guy that will assert himself on the court. Make sure he leaves his mark... Sort of the anti-Hayward. Oh, and he's really talented too.
 
larryselbows said:
lulz I'm serious. He seems like a jerk, but the type of guy that will assert himself on the court. Make sure he leaves his mark... Sort of the anti-Hayward. Oh, and he's really talented too.
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Aight, yeah, I'm on the Rivers bandwagon. He'll be a star, but the conservative Jazz won't draft him ..
 
Brad Beal should be a solid player in the league, not a star necessarily, but solid. I still think he could have a James Harden-type impact. Not a bad back-up plan.

Rivers does have a bit of swag like D.Will does. He's only a freshman too.

I'm also a Mike Moser fan. People act like he's fully developed, but he's only a soph.
 
NAOS said:
Ok, this is mainly for my own entertainment, but I'll throw this out there.... (BTW, I know this is too many rookies, but, what the hell...)

Here's a dream scenario for next year's draft:

First, the Jazz trade CJ, Bell, or Howard for a second-round draft pick.

Jazz select: Quincy Miller (for obvious reasons), Austin Rivers (potential), Scott Machado (PKM, you seem to be right about him), and John Jenkins (3-pt specialist)

This is also assuming the Jazz find a way to acquire Augustin or some other established PG.

The roster would look something like this:

Augustin/Watson/Machado/Rivers
Burks/Hayward/Rivers/Jenkins
Hayward/Miller/Evans
Millsap/Kanter/Favors
Favors/Thompson (or similar)

yup, no Al or Devin
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I already changed my mind (and I'll do so again). Leonard is already spooking me. Go with Rivers instead. Use the MLE on a guy like Jason Thompson to backup Favors, Kanter, and Millsap
 
larryselbows said:
Serious? Don't you lie to me Hantlers!!
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Yessir. I believe it was at the Kevin Durant summer camp, 6'5 in shoes mean's he's probably 6'3.5 or 6'4 in socks...not a big deal to me. Of course you never know how accurate those measurements are, he might even be 6'4...but he isn't 6'2. I can guarantee that.
 
I know I've mentioned him before but if somehow Burke comes out, I really would love to see him in a Jazz uniform. Former HS teammate of Sullinger, he is and will be special.

I think he and Hardaway Jr stay around but that's one of my wishes.
 
Cope said:
I know I've mentioned him before but if somehow Burke comes out, I really would love to see him in a Jazz uniform. Former HS teammate of Sullinger, he is and will be special.

I think he and Hardaway Jr stay around but that's one of my wishes.
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Amazing game last night from Trey and the team. My bet is he and Hardaway stay one more year. Trey needs to get a little bigger for the NBA and Hardaway needs a little more consistency. Burke is so fun to watch, has confidence, and seems to do the right thing 90% of the time. He is also a really hard worker (especially in the offseason) which means he will only keep improving.

Lineup next year:

Trey Burke
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Glen Robinson III
Jordan Morgan
Mitch McGary

Big time final 4 potential with that team.
 
bluenote said:
Amazing game last night from Trey and the team. My bet is he and Hardaway stay one more year. Trey needs to get a little bigger for the NBA and Hardaway needs a little more consistency. Burke is so fun to watch, has confidence, and seems to do the right thing 90% of the time. He is also a really hard worker (especially in the offseason) which means he will only keep improving.

Lineup next year:

Trey Burke
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Glen Robinson III
Jordan Morgan
Mitch McGary

Big time final 4 potential with that team.
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Nice lineup ... now if they could only find a coach ..

I kid, I kid.
 
Here is an article on Sheridanhoops.com about the top 10 picks in this years draft. There are some major inconsistancies between what this forum thinks and what this writer thinks:

1. Harrison Barnes 6’8, 223, SF, North Carolina

Lost in the hysteria of the Tar Heels’ loss to Duke at the buzzer thanks to an Austin Rivers 3 was the performance of Barnes, who was the best player on the floor all night. No, he didn’t close the game, but the UNC forward continues to show the take-over ability that scouts have been expecting. He needs to improve his rebounding numbers, which are down this year slightly, but offensively he’s the most complete player in the country right now.

2. Anthony Davis 6’10, 220, PF, Kentucky

Hmmm, 127 blocks in 26 games? Davis draws comparisons to Marcus Camby because of his wingspan and defensive ability, but he isn’t the offensive impact player that Camby was at this stage. But he’s still a pup. Davis is slight, but he’s an impact player defensively at the NBA level right now and is by far and away the best defensive player in college basketball. His defensive timing and instincts haven’t been seen in a college prospect in years and absolutely puts Kentucky on a different level as they plan their march a national championship. If Davis stays out of foul trouble, the Wildcats are an impossible out come tournament time.

3. Andre Drummond, 6’11, 270, C, Connecticut

Drummond is struggling mightily in Big East action and the timing of this has scouts questioning if he needs more development at this level. He was shut out against Louisville then got severely outplayed by Syracuse’s front line in an 18-point loss. What I like about Drummond is his hands and footwork combined with his size. What puzzles me is his energy level and consistent ability to get outworked for position and inability to establish himself on the block.

4. John Henson, 6’11, 223, C, North Carolina

To me, there isn’t a more improved big man in the nation than Henson, whose career has morphed from defensive stopper to now a more complete post player and defender. He still needs to get stronger at his base, because on one-on-one post situations he can be moved, but he’s almost at Anthony Davis’ level from a timing perspective on blocks and rebounds. I’m most impressed with the array of post moves and ability to finish with both hands around the basket. If he can improve his FT shooting come crunch time of the season, Henson’s stock could be rising as high as anyone in the country.

5. Jared Sullinger, 6’9, 280, PF, Ohio State

Sullinger is the best pure, post up big man in the country. He often is a man among boys in a conference that is the most physical in the country. That’s what’s so incredibly impressive. Equally impressive as his polished post moves is the fact that Sullinger is a tremendous mid-range shooter and is a fit for any pick and pop point guard. I compare him to Kurt Thomas as it relates to his touch from 10-15 feet. Sullinger will never be the best athlete on the floor, or the 9th best, but he has NBA savvy and that counts for a lot.

6. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist , 6’7, 230, SF, Kentucky

Talent-wise, Gilchrist is right up there with the best in the nation, but there are lapses of freshman immaturity. Thankfully, these mistakes get covered up by Kentucky’s overwhelming talent on its roster. He’s a fantastic athlete with an NBA ready body physically and always fills up the stat sheet evident by his recent performance against #11 Kansas. Gilchrist can vault himself to the top of the draft if he can show he’s the best player on the floor, more often than not, come tournament time. Not an easy task on the Wildcats’ college all-star team.

7. Thomas Robinson, 6’9, 240, PF, Kansas

I always considered Robinson to have a higher ceiling than both Morris twins, who were first round picks in last year’s draft and played with Robinson last year for the Jayhawks. Robinson is a tremendous athlete with great finishing ability, but his shooting form could be extended to 18 feet in my opinion with reps and confidence. If this continues to develop he can pull bigger forwards away from the basket at the next level and be an instant rotation player on any NBA roster.

8. Arnett Moultrie, 6’10, 240, PF, Mississippi State

Perhaps no one in college basketball has the combination of motor and the physical nature to the game that Moultrie possesses. He’s ready right now physically and has the ability to dominate a game on both ends averaging a double-double while playing in the SEC. There isn’t much this player doesn’t do, and it will be interesting to see him develop more come tournament time.

9. Bradley Beal, 6’3, 220, SG, Florida

Just a freshman, Beal plays beyond his years and is the most talented shooting guard in the country. What scouts appreciate most is his ability to be a low volume/high-efficiency scorer who can also rebound very well from the backcourt position. He’s only 6’3, which is undersized in the NBA for a 2 guard, but his ability to come off screens and off cuts reminds many of a young Ray Allen. Definitely a player to keep an eye on over the next few weeks.

10. Mike Moser, 6’8, 210, PF, UNLV

Moser cracks my top 10 because he is as gifted a scorer-athlete as any player in the nation at this point. He’s flown under the radar, but having led the Running-Rebels to 22 wins to date, Moser will be a focal point should UNLV make it far in the tournament. The ex-UCLA Bruin can flat out take over a game from the stretch-4 position, a spot that every scout is looking for at the NBA level. He can shoot threes and guard the SF and PF position in an up tempo style. Keep an eye on Moser, his stock is soaring.
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Here is a link to the article:

https://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/02/18/predicting-the-top-10-picks-in-the-2012-nba-draft/

Enjoy and please comment.
 
That writer isn't qualified to post here, lol.

I'll give my feedback on some of the more laughable statements when I get back to my CPU. Too hard on an iPhone (at least for me).
 
NAOS said:
He's really high on Moultrie and Moser. I could get interested in Moser if I had more confidence in his ability to guard the 3.
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The sad thing is Moultrie might not make the tournament. MSST (or MSU as I call them) has lost 3 straight to LSU, Auburn, and Georgia.
 
orangello said:
Here is an article on Sheridanhoops.com about the top 10 picks in this years draft. There are some major inconsistancies between what this forum thinks and what this writer thinks:



Here is a link to the article:

https://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/02/18/predicting-the-top-10-picks-in-the-2012-nba-draft/

Enjoy and please comment.
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Wow....maybe I should start writing for these fools. I like Moser, but idk if he goes top-10.

Harrison Barnes was the best player on the court all night against Duke? Did he even watch the game?! Rivers was clearly the best player, and right after him I would go with Tyler Zeller.

Henson can dunk and block shots. We've seen his type for years now, they never seem to produce and yet people keep on drafting them...I just don't get it. He struggles shooting outside of a 8-10 ft radius, which is bad for a guy as skinny as him.

Sullinger is slow, and unathletic, I think he might have problems keeping his weight down much like that guy from Georgetown a couple years...can't remember his name. Thomas Robinson I like a lot. I don't know anything about Moultrie, but Cy likes him so I'll have to trust him on that one.

Now here is what ticks me off, Austin Rivers consistently gets called a chucker and Brad Beal is a low volume/high-efficiency scorer? Lets just ignore the fact that Rivers is averaging 1 shot more a game and shooting 44% from 2 and 40% from 3 while Brad Beal is averaging 43% and 33% respectively. I swear none of these people watch games and just go off of reputations. I don't see how anybody can have Beal slotted over Rivers, maybe that's just the homer in me though.
 
Hantlers said:
Wow....maybe I should start writing for these fools. I like Moser, but idk if he goes top-10.

Harrison Barnes was the best player on the court all night against Duke? Did he even watch the game?! Rivers was clearly the best player, and right after him I would go with Tyler Zeller.

Henson can dunk and block shots. We've seen his type for years now, they never seem to produce and yet people keep on drafting them...I just don't get it. He struggles shooting outside of a 8-10 ft radius, which is bad for a guy as skinny as him.

Sullinger is slow, and unathletic, I think he might have problems keeping his weight down much like that guy from Georgetown a couple years...can't remember his name. Thomas Robinson I like a lot. I don't know anything about Moultrie, but Cy likes him so I'll have to trust him on that one.

Now here is what ticks me off, Austin Rivers consistently gets called a chucker and Brad Beal is a low volume/high-efficiency scorer? Lets just ignore the fact that Rivers is averaging 1 shot more a game and shooting 44% from 2 and 40% from 3 while Brad Beal is averaging 43% and 33% respectively. I swear none of these people watch games and just go off of reputations. I don't see how anybody can have Beal slotted over Rivers, maybe that's just the homer in me though.
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Good post. The Barnes description (in the article) was absurd. Sullinger I like but he will mightily struggle in the NBA. More later.
 
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