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Following potential 2012 draftees

Ok enough of this let's take a look at what might be there in the second round. (I will base this on chad fords top 100 40-60 range)

T Taylor PG 6-3 185 21 - would be worthy of a flier in the second round attitude issues concern me

Myck Kabongo PG 6-1 170 19 - if he comes out and is available here you have to take him and hope he developes.

Scott Machado PG 6-1 180 21 - a lot already said about him

Josh Smith C 6-9 320 19 - jazz love their big fat centers. Has a ton of talent

Andre Roberson SF 6-7 195 20 - he intrigues me burks could tell them a lot.

Alex Young SG 6-6 212 22 - some say he is the next big player from the small conference

Evan Fournier SG 6-7 206 19 - I've seen him higher but if he is on the board you have to take him

Will Barton SG 6-5 165 21 - worthy of a second pick

Marcus Denmon SG 6-3 185 22 - don't know much but not a fan of undersized 2s

Otto Porter SF 6-8 200 18 - don't know anything about him

Kevin Jones PF 6-8 250 22 - already have one of these in millsap

Elijah Johnson PG 6-4 195 - interesting look. I like big pgs

Le'Bryan Nash SF 6-7 230 20 - if he comes out and is here in the second you have to take him

Tomas Satoransky SG 6-7 204 20 - interesting player say he can play the pg also

William Buford SG 6-5 205 23 - not a big fan

Jae Crowder SF 6-6 225 21 - <3 been talked about solid player great 2nd pick

Jeff Withey C 7-0 235 22 - this surprised me would be a great snatch in the second

Rudy Gobert PF 6-11 220 19 - have no idea who this guy is

There are a lot more after too
 
I'll put those in red that I think may have been worthy of a late 1st pick.

Xthren said:
Ok enough of this let's take a look at what might be there in the second round. (I will base this on chad fords top 100 40-60 range)

T Taylor PG 6-3 185 21 - would be worthy of a flier in the second round attitude issues concern me

Myck Kabongo PG 6-1 170 19 - if he comes out and is available here you have to take him and hope he developes.

Scott Machado PG 6-1 180 21 - a lot already said about him

Josh Smith C 6-9 320 19 - jazz love their big fat centers. Has a ton of talent

Andre Roberson SF 6-7 195 20 - he intrigues me burks could tell them a lot.

Alex Young SG 6-6 212 22 - some say he is the next big player from the small conference

Evan Fournier SG 6-7 206 19 - I've seen him higher but if he is on the board you have to take him

Will Barton SG 6-5 165 21 - worthy of a second pick

Marcus Denmon SG 6-3 185 22 - don't know much but not a fan of undersized 2s

Otto Porter SF 6-8 200 18 - don't know anything about him

Kevin Jones PF 6-8 250 22 - already have one of these in millsap

Elijah Johnson PG 6-4 195 - interesting look. I like big pgs

Le'Bryan Nash SF 6-7 230 20 - if he comes out and is here in the second you have to take him

Tomas Satoransky SG 6-7 204 20 - interesting player say he can play the pg also

William Buford SG 6-5 205 23 - not a big fan

Jae Crowder SF 6-6 225 21 - <3 been talked about solid player great 2nd pick

Jeff Withey C 7-0 235 22 - this surprised me would be a great snatch in the second

Rudy Gobert PF 6-11 220 19 - have no idea who this guy is

There are a lot more after too
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Le'Bryan Nash, Kabongo, Will Barton .. those are the most intriguing on the list, but Myck won't come out. Nash should go back as well .. he's got top 10 talent. Barton was missused and has lottery talent.
 
PKM, Don't let the self-righteous jazz fans bother you. I have been a Jazz fan from day 1. I was one of the 6,000+ people who attended the first Utah Jazz game in SLC. I've been disappointed so many times I can't remember. I still haven't recovered from the highway robbery called the !998 NBA finals. I want a championship in the worse way. I am not getting younger and have grow impatient with the "it is important to make the playoffs crowd". They are entitled to their opinions but many of them take the next step and start question other's Fandom. I will be a Jazz fan for life but we already know that making the playoffs is not the ultimate goal. I believe this is the right opportunity for the Jazz to be a true contender and for me to say trading DW was the right thing to do. If we make the playoffs but don't develop our young guys then the Jazz will just be a run of the mill team for the next decade. Something I do NOT want to even consider.
 
cowhide said:
PKM, Don't let the self-righteous jazz fans bother you. I have been a Jazz fan from day 1. I was one of the 6,000+ people who attended the first Utah Jazz game in SLC. I've been disappointed so many times I can't remember. I still haven't recovered from the highway robbery called the !998 NBA finals. I want a championship in the worse way. I am not getting younger and have grow impatient with the "it is important to make the playoffs crowd". They are entitled to their opinions but many of them take the next step and start question other's Fandom. I will be a Jazz fan for life but we already know that making the playoffs is not the ultimate goal. I believe this is the right opportunity for the Jazz to be a true contender and for me to say trading DW was the right thing to do. If we make the playoffs but don't develop our young guys then the Jazz will just be a run of the mill team for the next decade. Something I do NOT want to even consider.
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That was a most descent post. ;)

Seriously though, I enjoyed this one.
 
So assuming we get the 8th pick in the draft, who does everyone want? I feel like PJ3 would definitely have the most upside of anyone left on the board, but I still feel like Marshall would be a perfect fit for us. If we have two picks, I may just take PJ3 and hope Marshall falls to us at 13/14. What's everyone feeling now that the tourney is over?
 
I think it's possible, but not probable, that Barnes falls to #8 (okay, not likely, at all) and I would take him first, if so.
After that, PJ3 is the most likely get at #8.
If gone, Marshall could be of value even if not BPA.
If all 3 are gone (and no other surprises fall), Henson, Zeller, Sullinger as trade bait.
Or perhaps (do NOT blast me) a Terrence Jones ... wouldn't happen, but if it did, I feel I could make most feel better about it.
 
PKM said:
I think it's possible, but not probable, that Barnes falls to #8 (okay, not likely, at all) and I would take him first, if so.
After that, PJ3 is the most likely get at #8.
If gone, Marshall could be of value even if not BPA.
If all 3 are gone (and no other surprises fall), Henson, Zeller, Sullinger as trade bait.
Or perhaps (do NOT blast me) a Terrence Jones ... wouldn't happen, but if it did, I feel I could make most feel better about it.
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I've been a fan of tjones for some time. He seriously has a game made for the NBA. I would not pass on pj3 for him, but would not mind trading down a few spots for him in this scenario. Something about him reminds of a less crazy odom.
 
spycam1 said:
So assuming we get the 8th pick in the draft, who does everyone want? I feel like PJ3 would definitely have the most upside of anyone left on the board, but I still feel like Marshall would be a perfect fit for us. If we have two picks, I may just take PJ3 and hope Marshall falls to us at 13/14. What's everyone feeling now that the tourney is over?
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I'm on the PJ3 team. I still firmly believe that if the Jazz want Marshall/Lillard bad enough they will make the trades necessary for them.
 
I also think that if the Jazz really want Marshall/Lillard then they will be able to trade an asset to a fringe playoff team to get one of them.
 
orangello said:
I also think that if the Jazz really want Marshall/Lillard then they will be able to trade an asset to a fringe playoff team to get one of them.
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I've come a long way on Marshall. I thought he was worthy of 20'ish, pre-season. I would be willing to trade down to get Marshall now .. or even try him at #8 (gasp) ..
 
PKM said:
I've come a long way on Marshall. I thought he was worthy of 20'ish, pre-season. I would be willing to trade down to get Marshall now .. or even try him at #8 (gasp) ..
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Same. Ideally, I'd want Marshall + PJ3 or Rivers. Imagine what Marshall could do with the likes of Jones, Favors and Kanter...
 
I'll make a BOLD prediction (not by Mock standards, but perception) .. TJones will be as good, or better, than PJ3 .. I'll hang up and listen.
 
It looks like Lillard could be the first pg off the board. Not sure we'd have a shot at him at 14. Same with Marshall.

I think we'll be looking at Miller, T. Jones, Rivers, or a back-up big. It's too bad that Wroten can't shoot.
 
Catchall said:
It looks like Lillard could be the first pg off the board. Not sure we'd have a shot at him at 14. Same with Marshall.

I think we'll be looking at Miller, T. Jones, Rivers, or a back-up big. It's too bad that Wroten can't shoot.
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Yeah, I've got a feeling that Portland and NO will both be looking at the PG's with their second picks.
 
I don't think Terrence Jones will bust. I think he'll have some great games and some games where he disappears--like Lamar Odom, but with more consistent effort on D and on the boards.
 
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