Otto Porter is god.
Following potential 2013 draftees
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Game6Conley
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Otto Porter: Jazz Proxy for Andrew Wiggins...
sounds good to me, let otto warm up the throne. he'll only increase in value as he bulks up and gets more experience
(i think they say otto didnt play aau ball so he should have had a bigger adjustment period, but didnt, leaving some with the conclusion of a very high ceiling)
sounds good to me, let otto warm up the throne. he'll only increase in value as he bulks up and gets more experience
(i think they say otto didnt play aau ball so he should have had a bigger adjustment period, but didnt, leaving some with the conclusion of a very high ceiling)
Otto ****ing Porter.
I've made up my mind. Trade up to get Porter. Use all picks and Burks. Get Porter.
Against the best defense, on the road, with no teammates showing up.
If he is as good as you've said - he'll go top 3 behind Noel & McClemore (i.e., no chance in hell we can get him).
A-Train (old)
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Trey Burke should be the Jazz's #1 priority in the draft being realistic because Otto Porter is a straight up beast and his draft stock is just going to skyrocket, with him definitely getting picked in the top-5 in this weak draft and potentially top-3. Trey Burke is 9th in the whole nation in assists per game with 6.9 and is 2nd in assist to turnover ratio with 3.81/1 also is averaging 18.6 PPG good for 34th in the country those are impressive numbers.
Burke is currently ranked #15 on ESPN's Chad Ford's Big Board, #15 on nbadraft.net's 2013 mock draft and #17 on DraftExpress top-100 prospects. That is right in the area where the Jazz could be picking and if you were a team in the top-5 and the Jazz offered you #18, #19 and Burks/Hayward would you accept it? I feel like the Jazz shouldn't trade Burks or Hayward for a player that has not proven himself at an NBA level and it doesn't address the point guard situation at all.
Burke is currently ranked #15 on ESPN's Chad Ford's Big Board, #15 on nbadraft.net's 2013 mock draft and #17 on DraftExpress top-100 prospects. That is right in the area where the Jazz could be picking and if you were a team in the top-5 and the Jazz offered you #18, #19 and Burks/Hayward would you accept it? I feel like the Jazz shouldn't trade Burks or Hayward for a player that has not proven himself at an NBA level and it doesn't address the point guard situation at all.
Game6Conley
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How do you compare Ben McClemore to Alec Burks? ones 20 ones 21. both have the late bloomer thing going for them. Also i dont care much for bill self or kansas players in general
i think its safe to say a majority of those players were over drafted and if mclemore is same, shame on whoever takes him 2nd.
A-Train (old)
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Bill Self said the Ben McLemore is the best player he has ever coached and he has coached some good players (Deron Williams).
Game6Conley
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did he say that before or after this boxscore d 2/20
bill self just looks like hes full of ****, i dont even want to get into calling him out for what he says.
in this particular game smart played poorly too, but with 2mins to go, the most alpha player on the court was OBVIOUS, drilled a 3 with 2mins to go to tie it at 67- iirc. smart proceeded to drill free-throw after free-throw in crunch time. mclemore was INVISIBLE.
A-Train (old)
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Marcus Smart didn't play good at all that game either and they are both considered the #1 and #2 picks right now. Just because a guy has one bad game does not make him a bad player.
Game6Conley
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im not going nuts over his bad game, happens to everyone. those stats in those minutes in double ot, concern me deeply.
i dont think he just had a bad game, i think he checked out... this board justifiably so went nuts over shabazz's behavior, he just wants the ball to win the game, his reaction was childish, but it was the reaction of a competitor, i cannot fathom or justify how mclemore is so good and put those numbers up in 49minutes...
Give me Dion Waiters over McLemore any day of the week.
i dont think he just had a bad game, i think he checked out... this board justifiably so went nuts over shabazz's behavior, he just wants the ball to win the game, his reaction was childish, but it was the reaction of a competitor, i cannot fathom or justify how mclemore is so good and put those numbers up in 49minutes...
Give me Dion Waiters over McLemore any day of the week.
Yeah, Porter's stock goes up after this. He was ahead of Carter-Williams in some mocks already. The 5/10 from 3pt, the 8 rebs., the 5 steals and only 1 turn-over despite taking 19 shots when his team depended on him, shows really good IQ and poise.
That's the knack on McLemore. He really plays within the team and doesn't look for his offense maybe as much as he should like Muhammad and Smart do. His mentality is best suited to be the 2nd/3rd option on a contender. But no question he's a top-5 talent in this draft.
And in all fairness, that performance came a week after he lit up Kansas St for 30 points on 13 shots. And he had 23 on Ok. State in their first meeting on 17 FGA.
Guys have bad games. It happens.
And in all fairness, that performance came a week after he lit up Kansas St for 30 points on 13 shots. And he had 23 on Ok. State in their first meeting on 17 FGA.
Guys have bad games. It happens.
Porter needs to do this in the tournament though. He needs to do this a couple more times. Nonetheless, I'd guess he gets ranked within a few slots of Bennett and Oladipo.
A-Train (old)
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South Dakota St. vs. Murray St. on ESPN2 at 8:00 ET, an interesting point guard matchup between Nate Wolters and Isaiah Canaan. Wolters is currently projected a early second-round pick and Canaan is currently projected a late-first round pick.
Wolters' highlights remind me of watching Jeremy Lin, which leaves me luke warm. I think Wolters might have a bit more IQ and a bit less athleticism though. Wolters also has more diverse ways to score.