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Following potential 2013 draftees

i prefer this 2nd round pg to Myck Kabongo, he destroyed Trey Burke in the biggest game of the year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YPgybf1bT0

Edit: anyone know how Siva measured at the combine? (vert, standing vert, height, weight, wingspan, standing reach?)
 
1 Nerlens Noel C
19 years old; 7'0"; 206 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman
2 Ben McLemore SG
20 years old; 6'5"; 189 lbs.
Kansas, Freshman
3 Anthony Bennett PF
20 years old; 6'7"; 239 lbs.
UNLV, Freshman
4 Victor Oladipo SG
21 years old; 6'4"; 213 lbs.
Indiana, Junior
5 Otto Porter SF
19 years old; 6'8"; 198 lbs.
Georgetown, Sophomore
6 Alex Len C
19 years old; 7'1"; 255 lbs.
Maryland, Sophomore
7 Trey Burke PG
20 years old; 6'1"; 187 lbs.
Michigan, Sophomore
8 C.J. McCollum PG/SG
21 years old; 6'3"; 197 lbs.
Lehigh, Senior
9 Shabazz Muhammad SF
20 years old; 6'6"; 222 lbs.
UCLA, Freshman
10 Rudy Gobert C
20 years old; 7'2"; 238 lbs.
Cholet, International
11 Cody Zeller PF/C
20 years old; 7'0"; 230 lbs.
Indiana, Sophomore
12 Kelly Olynyk C
22 years old; 7'0"; 234 lbs.
Gonzaga, Junior
13 Michael Carter-Williams PG
21 years old; 6'6"; 184 lbs.
Syracuse, Sophomore
14 Dennis Schroeder PG
19 years old; 6'2"; 165 lbs.
Braunschweig, International
15 Sergey Karasev SF
19 years old; 6'7"; 197 lbs.
Triumph Moscow, International
16 Steven Adams C
19 years old; 7'0"; 255 lbs.
Pittsburgh, Freshman
17 Mason Plumlee C
23 years old; 7'0"; 238 lbs.
Duke, Senior
18 Jamaal Franklin SG
21 years old; 6'5"; 191 lbs.
San Diego State, Junior
19 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope SG
20 years old; 6'6"; 204 lbs.
Georgia, Sophomore
20 Gorgui Dieng C
23 years old; 6'11"; 230 lbs.
Louisville, Junior
21 Tony Mitchell PF
21 years old; 6'9"; 236 lbs.
North Texas, Sophomore
22 Jeff Withey C
23 years old; 7'0"; 222 lbs.
Kansas, Senior
23 Shane Larkin PG
20 years old; 5'11"; 171 lbs.
Miami FL, Sophomore
24 Dario Saric SF
19 years old; 6'10"; 223 lbs.
Cibona Zagreb, International
25 Allen Crabbe SG
21 years old; 6'6"; 197 lbs.
California, Junior
26 Glen Rice SF
22 years old; 6'6"; 211 lbs.
Rio Grande Valley, Senior
27 Reggie Bullock SF
22 years old; 6'7"; 200 lbs.
North Carolina, Junior
28 Lucas Nogueira C
20 years old; 6'11"; 215 lbs.
Estudiantes, International
29 Giannis Adetokunbo SF
18 years old; 6'9"; 196 lbs.
Filathlitikos, International
30 Archie Goodwin SG
18 years old; 6'5"; 189 lbs.
Kentucky, Freshman

From DraftExpress.com
https://www.draftexpress.com
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Archie at 30... wow

(this is the first mock from dx post lottery)
 
ok all you chicken littles. there is no proof that any team that would trade up to Dallas spot is targeting schöder. they might want McW. step away from the ledge. McW would be much better next to Ellis then schöder. schöder is more ball dominate and so is Ellis.

as far as Howard is concerned Dallas could make a pretty solid pitch with cp3, nowitzki and Howard.

if Howard goes to Houston then we could easily steal one of their plethora of pfs cheap.

as far as drafting a 3rd big tomic would make a great 3rd big. a front loaded contract would help him with the buyout and the jazz in the future.

Adams looks awesome and for me if the jazz did make a deal with Dallas Adams and schröder would be my 2 targets.

mo, schröder, wolters
Hayward, burks
Marion, bullinger, Carroll
favors, Williams, Evans
kanter, tomic, Adams

the year Adams and tomic become a 7' twin towers off the bench. bullinger and burks compliment each other. mo is on a short 2 year to mentor schöder. he is injured enough that schöder will get valuable starts minutes. wolters is a solid back up that is a change of pass to schoders quickness.
 
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Hantlers said:
....what?

Chad Ford has almost always had a boner for international players. Darko, the dude the Nuggets drafted a while back, Chad Ford loves Euro's.

Chad Ford is also an idiot, but that's not the point.
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Nuggets didn't draft Darko.



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Jako said:
ok all you chicken littles. there is no proof that any team that would trade up to Dallas spot is targeting schöder. they might want McW. step away from the ledge. McW would be much better next to Ellis then schöder. schöder is more ball dominate and so is Ellis.

as far as Howard is concerned Dallas could make a pretty solid pitch with cp3, nowitzki and Howard.

if Howard goes to Houston then we could easily steal one of their plethora of pfs cheap.

as far as drafting a 3rd big tomic would make a great 3rd big. a front loaded contract would help him with the buyout and the jazz in the future.

Adams looks awesome and for me if the jazz did make a deal with Dallas Adams and schröder would be my 2 targets.

mo, schröder, wolters
Hayward, burks
Marion, bullinger, Carroll
favors, Williams, Evans
kanter, tomic, Adams

the year Adams and tomic become a 7' twin towers off the bench. bullinger and burks compliment each other. mo is on a short 2 year to mentor schöder. he is injured enough that schöder will get valuable starts minutes. wolters is a solid back up that is a change of pass to schoders quickness.
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I actually think that teams that move up would be targeting a big man.

Could you imagine Sanders and Adams down low for the Bucks? That would be a long tandem. No offense but a long tandem nonetheless.
 
Jako said:
ok all you chicken littles. there is no proof that any team that would trade up to Dallas spot is targeting schöder.
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are you prepared to bring evidence that teams aren't thinking of trading up for schroder?

in your mind hes a #14 type prospect??? no more, no less?

heres my top 5: Len, Shabazz, Noel, Bennett, Schroeder

Schroeder infront of many of the jokers you guys have at #1, also many have Mclemore #1, then say this draft isnt strong.

not me.

i like my top 5, and ill take my chances.

have teams even worked these kids out yet privately.. ? (isnt that where Lillards value flew up to 6 last year?)

he will be quite good once adjusted, and i actually like this kids chances to adjust fairly seamlessly for such a young guard.

i think he maybe as effective as kemba walker, quicker than some would think
 
Hotttnickkk said:
............ I reported this 2 hours ago hence the current discussion?
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Been slacking on this thread.


Hotttnickkk said:
I said this before, I'd go with Adams at #14 (he'll definitely be there if Schroeder & Gobert are off the board). I think he's top 10 material if he'd stay 1 more year in college. He also come across as smart and tough minded.

Then go with a stud 2-way 3pt shooting SG/SF: Bullock, Crabbe, Caldwell-Pope, Rice, Snell.


Adams is a shot blocking C who seems pretty smart. He can back up Favors & Kanter. Then one of the SG/SF can slot right in next to Hayward and shoot 3's ala Kawhii Leonard/Green of Spurs. Also helps boost our defense - we need a Stevenson type player, a fearless, lock down defender.
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This would be a nice draft.
 
Jako said:
as far as Howard is concerned Dallas could make a pretty solid pitch with cp3, nowitzki and Howard.
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How? Even if the cap goes up to $60mm, and the Mavs are able to dump everyone but Dirk, CP3 and Dwight would have to take significant paycuts to sign with Dallas. Dirk makes nearly $23mm next season, and 10 min salary cap holds brings their total cap with only Dirk up to about $28mm. That leaves only $32mm in first year salary to offer Dwight and CP3 combined. No way in hell. Those 3 plus minimum salary players won't get it done anyway.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
i prefer this 2nd round pg to Myck Kabongo, he destroyed Trey Burke in the biggest game of the year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YPgybf1bT0

Edit: anyone know how Siva measured at the combine? (vert, standing vert, height, weight, wingspan, standing reach?)
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I'm the self proclaimed leader of the Siva bandwagon.
mellow said:
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Check it out- Of everyone that participated in these measurements
Siva ranks
#6 in standing vert leap
#4 in max vert leap
#4 in lane agility drill
#7 in 3/4 sprint
#14 in modified lane agility drill
#7 in spot up shooting.

Those combine numbers are ridiculous considering no other draft player measured made all 6 of the standings as high as Siva did.
Combine this with the fact that he's led his team twice to the NCAA finals and I'm again befuddled as to how he's not at the very least a 2nd round draft pick consideration.

He does have small size though. But look-
Hieght w/o shoes
Burke- 5'11.75''
Siva- 5'11.5''

Standing reach
Burke- 8'1.5''
Siva- 7'9''

Bench Press
Burke- 3
Siva- 15

Go through the entire measurements and Siva beats Burke in everything but size and in size, he's not that much smaller.
 
Weezur said:
I'm the self proclaimed leader of the Siva bandwagon.
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let me just say this, i do not like Louisville. im a UK fan, im also from NY and a Yankees fan, and passionately hate the red sox.

but everyonce in a while they will have a good player that i will actually kind of almost admit is good. maybe, like Pedro Martinez he was great, no one would deny that. but i hate him.

anyway i like Siva, the jazz with a championship winning PG, has a nice ring to it, 7'9" wingspan and 41" vert isnt tiny, and this kid has quiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick hands on d, and good defensive balance.

we should get this kid to pair with Schroder... i really like that idea
 
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