Following potential 2013 draftees

[Doublea]

dal I agree with a lot that you said but change sf to wing.

I want nothing to do with millsap. didnt like his pouting.

I would love to see bazz on the jazz.

and nab the shooting guard Harrison, Aaron I think.

wolters is my pick. the Hayward of pgs.

if we could get zeller we would have Hayward, the Hayward of pgs and the Hayward of pfs

Why just cause they are white? I wouldn't compare wolters to hayward at all...

 

[Dr. Jones]

Why just cause they are white? I wouldn't compare wolters to hayward at all...

Yes. AGREE.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I think Wolters is underrated simply because no one has seen him play next to good players on his own team. If you look at the size, skills, and body control, he's a legit prospect, but probably should go after 21.

Edit: Wolters has IQ and some intangibles like Hayward. They're not a direct comparison.

 

[Doublea]

Wolters is interesting for sure. I are him as being the least risky of all the point guards. He could be a fairly good.

 

[The Midnight]

Let me use an analogy. I have never microbrewed beers, but some here have (Gameface)..
Who am I to say something like, "How could anyone possibly know how a beer may taste just by using different ingredients and varying grades of said ingredients?"

I'm asking because I have no experience at brewing. I can't understand it because I have no empirical data, no real understanding. So, I may think it's more simply related to trial and error and luck. But Gameface may say he has enough experience in analyzing the pieces that he can better determine that whole than I can.. even if I don't understand how that may be true.

How'd I do, kkk? Not exactly Dancing with the Stars.. but not too shabby??

Good try.. and it's not bad.. really...I have to give you props. Although I have a feeling it's not really your thing (you need to move your analogy/metaphor down a notch for us common people.

 

[The Midnight]

Just for arguments sake.
What is least important position on a team?
Maybe point guard?
Consider top five PGs right now
Rose, Paul, D Williams, etc.
How many have won a title?
Jazz do need a good PG but should it be top priority at the #14 if a far better player is available?

We're not looking at a top 5 PG at the #14 pick. We're looking at a serviceable PG with potential to be great 1 day.

The analogy I'd like to use is the Golf GTI. It's a rather small, compact, non-threatening looking car. But once they put a turbo charged engine in it, it has never looked back. It's small, it's fast, it's quick, it's nimble. You can use it as an everyday car, for supermarket shopping - even carrying furniture because it's a hatch back. But you can also use it on a race track or even a rally track - it's also has that "Potential".

 

[mellow]

Lol.. that's an awful lot to type as a result of misunderstanding the question.

If I understood the original question correctly, the answer for the Jazz is the wing. SG or SF, always has been. Ty Corbin hasn't changed that.

But Dalamon's post got to me thinking....

if the Jazz go pg at 14, doesn't that impact Burks the most? I expect Foye and Hayward to eat up all the minutes at sg, and Hayward and DeMarre/Evans all the time at sf. Last year when everyone was injured Burks was playing pg, but he is a back-up pg, not a starter. And if the Jazz draft a pg at 14, they will most certainly sign a veteran pg to teach him the ropes. Those two will eat up the bulk of the minutes, leaving a few for Burks. That makes Burks the 3rd string pg and 3rd string sg? What a waste of a pick. Jazz really made a mess of a #12 pick in the draft or developing him or both. Hopefully it shakes out different but I suspect Burks is the prize the Jazz are dangling to move up.

 

[The Midnight]

Forget what position we need most. We should use this draft to replenish our bench then fill our position of need in next years deep and talented draft

What Thee said. Just draft BPA.

Lol.. that's an awful lot to type as a result of misunderstanding the question.

Boy you guys are harsh... Dal has made some great points there and you just threw them in the bin.

Usually, yes I'd say just draft BPA. But in this draft - there isn't a consensus BPA. Just go look at the mocks! It's all over the place!!!

To me there is a band of players from approx. #9 - #24 that have very similar talent level - it's just what you would prefer to eat (as Locke used to say). Do you prefer pasta? How about a burger? How about a rice dish? What if you are a pasta person - but the noodles in the shop next door is very very good. Can you live with eating Noodles for the rest of your life? No right? You'd rather eat pasta. Then back to the draft - can we truly compare Steven Adams and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope? How about KCP and Reggie Bullock? Who would you rather have?

To me there are good things and there at least 1 major flaw in just about every prospect within the #9 - #24 range that the "Draft BPA" strategy needed to be taken with a grain of salt here, and "Draft Positional Need" strategy should be considered where appropriate.

 

[A-Train (old)]

Once again please let me know what you guys think, the next one I will do will be on Monday. Any suggestions, criticisms, or comments etc. I will be doing this regularly heading up into the draft, every other day or so.
NBN's Mock Draft 2.0

 

[Fishsticks]

We are getting tyreke evans and trading burke and 14 for the 7 th pick with target of bazz.

 

[The Midnight]

Forget what position we need most. We should use this draft to replenish our bench then fill our position of need in next years deep and talented draft

What Thee said. Just draft BPA.

If I understood the original question correctly, the answer for the Jazz is the wing. SG or SF, always has been. Ty Corbin hasn't changed that.

But Dalamon's post got to me thinking....

if the Jazz go pg at 14, doesn't that impact Burks the most? I expect Foye and Hayward to eat up all the minutes at sg, and Hayward and DeMarre/Evans all the time at sf. Last year when everyone was injured Burks was playing pg, but he is a back-up pg, not a starter. And if the Jazz draft a pg at 14, they will most certainly sign a veteran pg to teach him the ropes. Those two will eat up the bulk of the minutes, leaving a few for Burks. That makes Burks the 3rd string pg and 3rd string sg? What a waste of a pick. Jazz really made a mess of a #12 pick in the draft or developing him or both. Hopefully it shakes out different but I suspect Burks is the prize the Jazz are dangling to move up.

I think Burks will play the 6th man off the bench role next season (similar to the way Hayward play the bulk of last season). Burks will also be our 3rd PG effectively if need be.

 

[The Midnight]

Once again please let me know what you guys think, the next one I will do will be on Monday. Any suggestions, criticisms, or comments etc. I will be doing this regularly heading up into the draft, every other day or so.
NBN's Mock Draft 2.0

Love it bro. LOVE IT - LOVE IT - LOVE IT!!!

 

[A-Train (old)]

Love it bro. LOVE IT - LOVE IT - LOVE IT!!!

I'm not sure if your serious or not. Lol

 

[orangello]

We are getting tyreke evans and trading burke and 14 for the 7 th pick with target of bazz.

Link?

 

[The Midnight]

I'm not sure if your serious or not. Lol

I'm serious.

- Schroeder at #14 would be a steal of the draft, mark my word.

- Allen Crabbe is a great 3pt shooter. He has good size and has potential on defense. That's exactly who I want starting at the SG spot, hitting 3's and defending the other team's scorer. Reggie Bullock and Tony Snell are the others I'd consider here.

 

[orangello]

Once again please let me know what you guys think, the next one I will do will be on Monday. Any suggestions, criticisms, or comments etc. I will be doing this regularly heading up into the draft, every other day or so.
NBN's Mock Draft 2.0

Here goes nothing:

I think that your draft is quite realistic. Here are a few changes that I would make-

Len to the Kings so that they have something in place in case they do trade Cousins.
Pistons take Bazz.
MCW drops to the Trailblazers.
Bennett tumbles all the way to the Bucks.
I don't like the Crabbe pick for the Jazz.
Larkin falls to the Knicks.

 

[A-Train (old)]

I'm serious.

- Schroeder at #14 would be a steal of the draft, mark my word.

- Allen Crabbe is a great 3pt shooter. He has good size and has potential on defense. That's exactly who I want starting at the SG spot, hitting 3's and defending the other team's scorer. Reggie Bullock and Tony Snell are the others I'd consider here.

My thoughts exactly, except the steal part, I don't know that much about Schroeder to go that far.

 

[orangello]

I'm serious.

- Schroeder at #14 would be a steal of the draft, mark my word.

- Allen Crabbe is a great 3pt shooter. He has good size and has potential on defense. That's exactly who I want starting at the SG spot, hitting 3's and defending the other team's scorer. Reggie Bullock and Tony Snell are the others I'd consider here.

He doesn't seem to have a motor for defense.

 

[slc]

Why would Blazers take MCW?
They have Lillard.

 

[The Midnight]

Why would Blazers take MCW?
They have Lilliard.

They played Lillard off the ball at times last year with Maynor at the point, and they were quite successful.