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NUMBERICA said:
Maybe this makes me petty, stupid, and/or crazy, but I think I've seen enough of Shabazz with that woeful lowlight of his sulking off the court after a teammate nailed a game-winner. Premature as hell for me to call it, but the kid may be busted. He has a long way to go upstairs.
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NUMBERICA said:
I don't see why he'd turn the corner, though. He's obviously had turds in his ear for most of his life and it's worked or he just is a turd. Beyond that, what's going to make him learn, the millions of dollars that are going to come flying at him in less than a year regardless of his performance? And if he's even a productive junk-baller that gets his next contract?

If he turns the corner, I don't see how anything less than a Gerald Green experience gets him there. But of course I'm speculating. We'll see.
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Agreed with this.

I'm still surprised PKM would have taken him over Kanter... hmmmm...
 
Durrrr said:
How many games does a Kanter Favors Hayward Burks starting lineup with no Al or Paul next year win?
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Too many variables to consider. What's the rest of the team look like? How much does each guy improve? Does Corbin learn how to walk and talk at the same time?
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
because i have grading system i have Harrison at 97+, as i do Shabazz. Trey Burke isnt even a 90 for sure.

and we arent gonna be in the lottery next year, we will make the playoffs, like we did last year, like we will this year.
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You think that lineup I posted above is a playoff team already in Their first year starting?
 
Xthren said:
when I see logic I'll respond to it.
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I think what he's saying is that people think the C4 would dominate if given the playing time, yet somehow we'd also end up in the lottery. He's pointing out that you can't really have both. At least I think that's what he was saying.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
how do you figure we lose all those games next year... by drafting and trading up for trey burke?

have him be exposed for his C+ athleticism in big minutes??
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We'll we're in the WEST for 1.

OK we'll beat guys like the Bobcats, Cavs, etc in the EAST.

But most teams in the West we'll struggle IMO.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
because i have grading system i have Harrison at 97+, as i do Shabazz. Trey Burke isnt even a 90 for sure.

and we arent gonna be in the lottery next year, we will make the playoffs, like we did last year, like we will this year.
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An alt with a grading system, how cute, stop littering this thread with these ridiculous scenarios.
 
I bet we'd win in the 30s depending on who else we signed to replace Millsap and Al. I actually would love to keep Sap, very versatile and a really solid offensive player who can create his own shot which these young guys need at times. Also plays amazingly well in transition for a big guy which would be a great fit. If we could get Sap, Mo, a decent SG, and re-sign demarre plus draft decently I don't think we'd really be that much worse. Al is good in terms of consistency, which I'm sure a really young team would lack, but he has kind of a low ceiling.

With Al, we know what we're getting which is 6, 7, 8 and a first round exit.
 
PKM, Ford has Isaiah Austin at #20 right now. Does that actually seem accurate from what you've heard? I'd be giddy, if fell to us. He'll take a few years to adjust to the NBA game, but the upside is definitely there.
 
spycam1 said:
PKM, Ford has Isaiah Austin at #20 right now. Does that actually seem accurate from what you've heard? I'd be giddy, if fell to us. He'll take a few years to adjust to the NBA game, but the upside is definitely there.
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I hadn't noticed that. No, not right at all..

Austin will get killed in the league with his current frame, but the guy is too big and has too many skills to be selected past, say, 8/9. Personally, I'd put him in the area of 7.. maybe even a little higher. Bottom line is if a team thinks he can add strength, he's a near can't miss big.. if you think he can't, pass on him.
 
As for the question of the jazz record with a burks, hayward, favors, kanter starting lineup.... i think we would win about 42 games and just miss the playoffs finishing 9th or 10 in the west..... basically i think would be right about as good as portland is right now. (of course i believe in our youth more than most do)
 
NUMBERICA said:
Maybe this makes me petty, stupid, and/or crazy, but I think I've seen enough of Shabazz with that woeful lowlight of his sulking off the court after a teammate nailed a game-winner. Premature as hell for me to call it, but the kid may be busted. He has a long way to go upstairs.
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It is a concern but remember the kid is what 19 years old and has been told he is the greatest thing since slice bread. The NBA has a way of humbling a player but it is too earlier to say the kid is a complete knucklehead. However, his reaction to the winning shot should certainly open up your eyes to the possibility that he is a more me player than a team player. If there are other incidents then I would certainly not have anything to do with him.
 
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