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BENTLEY said:
Saric vs. Giannis (what I could glean from DX)

Both born in '94. Saric is 8 months older (big deal).
Saric listed 27 lbs heavier than Giannis.
Wingspan: Saric 6'10" vs. Giannis 7'3"
3pt: Saric 30% vs. Giannis 34%
FT: Saric 50% vs. Giannis 70%
Both are said to be good passers. But Giannis enormous hands are talked about as strengths in passing, ball-handling, and finishing.
Saric defense numbers look meh. Giannis is also less than spectacular here but the writeup mentions that defensive is the aspect of the game in which he has the most potential.

I've never seen either play - except online clips. Based on very little info I'm leaning Giannis.

Anyone care to enlighten me?
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I also wondered about their similarities. I would just say that if Saric didn't have any stats listed then he would be given a huge favor. If Giannis is anywhere near as inefficient then I'm not sure how much more I'd like him than Saric.
 
PKM said:
Int'l players is not my thing.. but I've heard very little positive about either .. other than Giannis' potential. Based on very little.. I'd puy Giannie mid 20's and Saric early 2nd.
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how about NBADL... ?

more specifically Glen Rice Jr.
 
NUMBERICA said:
1 - Millsap is a proven NBA player, Larkin is not. Millsap was also drafted in the middle of the 2nd round (in a terrible draft).
2 - Larkin might work out (as any could), but I like other players more.
3 - Size is a piece of the equation, not the whole equation. When you're an "est" on the wrong side of the spectrum, it's folly to wholly disregard it. Would you argue that size plays no role in the quality of a player? If you don't, where is the point for you to have concern?
4 - Say what you want, I think it's very hard to be a consistently effective defender when you're almost assuredly the smallest player on the floor on a given night.

Larkin might be good. He might be the right pick. Or he might not. I'd rather pick someone else at 14.
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I agree with everything you've written but #4. I think you've overplayed the size angle, in general, and I don't remember you ever being a big enough fan of college ball to put much stock in your opinion of these players' on-court ability. I'd hope the Jazz could do better at 14, but I'd be happy with Larkin at 21 (again, from the little I've seen).
 
orangello said:
True. He is a better facilitator and not as good as a shooter as Gallinari.
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as someone whos an ex knicks fan who used to frequent the draft thread (i wanted brook lopez over gallinari)

gallinari turned out to be a much better shooter than all the pundits predicted, some were saying he was a playmaker and questioning his jumpshot

the knicks got him in summer league and said he shoots better than we thought, gallinari is also a clutch shooter, hes top 10 worthy, saric in my eyes is not but hes not that far off, if we take him at 21 its good value and upside, remember hes young too, with professional exp
 
PKM said:
Did I misunderstand the question, though? I thought it was which pick should we hate more.
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You didn't misunderstand but you went with Plumlee cause he would have been the bpa. Bazz was still on the board and you are one of few that still believe in him at any pick past 5. I wasn't trying to fool anyone. I was just pointing out that both suck and that people don't know who the Jazz really like.
 
BENTLEY said:
Saric vs. Giannis (what I could glean from DX)

Both born in '94. Saric is 8 months older (big deal).
Saric listed 27 lbs heavier than Giannis.
Wingspan: Saric 6'10" vs. Giannis 7'3"
3pt: Saric 30% vs. Giannis 34%
FT: Saric 50% vs. Giannis 70%
Both are said to be good passers. But Giannis enormous hands are talked about as strengths in passing, ball-handling, and finishing.
Saric defense numbers look meh. Giannis is also less than spectacular here but the writeup mentions that defensive is the aspect of the game in which he has the most potential.

I've never seen either play - except online clips. Based on very little info I'm leaning Giannis.

Anyone care to enlighten me?
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PointGod_AlecBurks said:
how about NBADL... ?

more specifically Glen Rice Jr.
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Intriguing. I've watched 4 games that he didn't do much but I could see something there.. I have him around 30.
 
Plumlee will be better than Tyler Hansboro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuDzrqtVmPg&list=PLGbx-x-czRRdaZvRlT3oLj5_6myqbJNaQ&index=5 anyone think hes got Monta Ellis 2nd round capabilities? this kid was asked to do too much, in a small role he might thrive
 
GVC said:
I agree with everything you've written but #4. I think you've overplayed the size angle, in general, and I don't remember you ever being a big enough fan of college ball to put much stock in your opinion of these players' on-court ability. I'd hope the Jazz could do better at 14, but I'd be happy with Larkin at 21 (again, from the little I've seen).
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I've been on the record saying that college basketball is borderline unwatchable for me. I'm catching up like most people. I am not an expert.

Back to size and how it effects defense, I am a Millsap fan, but not even I would say that he wasn't overmatched because of his lack of size at times. If Larkin is being shot over (by the smallest guy on the opposing team), what is he (or the team) supposed to do out there? Avoiding exploitable weaknesses is as important to me in team-building as anything else, and I'd rather not have to try hide anybody (especially a guy that might not be hide-able).

But we'll see. I don't like Larkin at 14.
 
PKM said:
Intriguing. I've watched 4 games that he didn't do much but I could see something there.. I have him around 30.
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do you take into account the "bloodlines" or having an advantageous support system, with a pro athlete close in the family, or is that overrated?

like is it worth just alittle more, ie lefty pitching vs righty pitching.

ive followed a few "JR" prospects, some really out preform but some are clearly not as good as billed, i overrated ronnie brewer jr because of the professional heritage(and because he plays defense). but i think a player like darren collison is a good contrast to that

also i really like Timmy Jr, he seems to be gaining some steam here late in the process, i dont mind him at 21..
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Plumlee will be better than Tyler Hansboro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuDzrqtVmPg&list=PLGbx-x-czRRdaZvRlT3oLj5_6myqbJNaQ&index=5 anyone think hes got Monta Ellis 2nd round capabilities? this kid was asked to do too much, in a small role he might thrive
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I hated Young when he was being mocked lottery (Cy was pimping) but I LOVE him in the 40s.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
do you take into account the "bloodlines" or having an advantageous support system, with a pro athlete close in the family, or is that overrated?

like is it worth just alittle more, ie lefty pitching vs righty pitching.

ive followed a few "JR" prospects, some really out preform but some are clearly not as good as billed, i overrated ronnie brewer jr because of the professional heritage(and because he plays defense). but i think a player like darren collison is a good contrast to that

also i really like Timmy Jr, he seems to be gaining some steam here late in the process, i dont mind him at 21..
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I like lefties.
I put no stock in bloodlines.
I LOVE a good family with positive support (but not hanger-ons).
 
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