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Giannis' team really sucks btw. They're playing him at PF and having him bring the ball up and run plays to set up slow-a** players.
 
Locke repeated something profound today. An NBA scout told him to stop looking for a starter in this draft. Look for a rotation guy and then you can evaluate this draft crop better. Locke also shared an original thought that most draft mistakes are made from 6-15 by teams looking for a potential star rather than a rotation player.

Which got me to thinking: If the Jazz are going to go young and run out a bunch of young players in hopes of adding by trades or FA next summer....well, why not draft three guys that can play right away and then the Jazz have a tradeable piece if they need it. Jazz have always seemed to try for the guy with a higher ceiling who may not be ready. This year, in this draft, with the new CBA changing the NBA landscape why not get Olynyk, Larkin, Plumlee and Jackson or the likes....a little older perhaps, a lower ceiling perhaps, clear deficiencies--yes. But guys that can play with the Core 4+3 next year.
 
Locke repeated something profound today. An NBA scout told him to stop looking for a starter in this draft. Look for a rotation guy and then you can evaluate this draft crop better. Locke also shared an original thought that most draft mistakes are made from 6-15 by teams looking for a potential star rather than a rotation player.

Which got me to thinking: If the Jazz are going to go young and run out a bunch of young players in hopes of adding by trades or FA next summer....well, why not draft three guys that can play right away and then the Jazz have a tradeable piece if they need it. Jazz have always seemed to try for the guy with a higher ceiling who may not be ready. This year, in this draft, with the new CBA changing the NBA landscape why not get Olynyk, Larkin, Plumlee and Jackson or the likes....a little older perhaps, a lower ceiling perhaps, clear deficiencies--yes. But guys that can play with the Core 4+3 next year.

Solid points. I still just like the concept of taking whomever you think is the best player. I don't like it slanted toward game-ready because we're not contenders anyway.
And though I do like the sound of what Locke said, he didn't really say anything.
 
Locke repeated something profound today. An NBA scout told him to stop looking for a starter in this draft. Look for a rotation guy and then you can evaluate this draft crop better. Locke also shared an original thought that most draft mistakes are made from 6-15 by teams looking for a potential star rather than a rotation player.

Which got me to thinking: If the Jazz are going to go young and run out a bunch of young players in hopes of adding by trades or FAscan't t.t t blem mmer....well, why not draft three guys that can play right away and then the Jazz have a tradeable piece if they need it. Jazz have always seemed to try for the guy with a higher ceiling who may not be ready. This year, in this draft, with the new CBA changing the NBA landscape why not get Olynyk, Larkin, Plumlee and Jackson or the likes....a little older perhaps, a lower ceiling perhaps, clear deficiencies--yes. But guys that can play with the Core 4+3 next year.


Locke is stupid.


There is always a really good player or two after 14. I did that study already and made a thread about it. So I have no problem with swinging for the fences. Someone who will be really good will be available at 14.
 
I look for NBA athletes, well suited to an NBA position, with raw talent, a bit of polish and the desire to get better. When a kid is 19 or 20, he's far from being developed as a player. Most guys take until they're 23 or 24 to show who they really are.

There are a bunch of starting caliber players in this draft though.
 
I look for NBA athletes, well suited to an NBA position, with raw talent, a bit of polish and the desire to get better. When a kid is 19 or 20, he's far from being developed as a player. Most guys take until they're 23 or 24 to show who they really are.

There are a bunch of starting caliber players in this draft though.

Not saying you're wrong, but curious which you think those are?
 
Aww **** it! Lets draft Tony Mitchell with 21st pick. Lets try to hit a homerun.

What do you say guys? You in?
 
Locke repeated something profound today. An NBA scout told him to stop looking for a starter in this draft. Look for a rotation guy and then you can evaluate this draft crop better. Locke also shared an original thought that most draft mistakes are made from 6-15 by teams looking for a potential star rather than a rotation player.

Which got me to thinking: If the Jazz are going to go young and run out a bunch of young players in hopes of adding by trades or FA next summer....well, why not draft three guys that can play right away and then the Jazz have a tradeable piece if they need it. Jazz have always seemed to try for the guy with a higher ceiling who may not be ready. This year, in this draft, with the new CBA changing the NBA landscape why not get Olynyk, Larkin, Plumlee and Jackson or the likes....a little older perhaps, a lower ceiling perhaps, clear deficiencies--yes. But guys that can play with the Core 4+3 next year.

OK with the strategy (somewhat), not OK with the players.
 
Solid points. I still just like the concept of taking whomever you think is the best player. I don't like it slanted toward game-ready because we're not contenders anyway.
And though I do like the sound of what Locke said, he didn't really say anything.

Not sure how a classy org. like the Jazz can hire a guy like Locke..

He's passionate and all, but I hope he's not getting paid to do the tip-off, let's put it that way...
 
I guess I don't even get it.. I could see it MAYBE if we were poised to contend and just wanted the most solid bench/rotation guys we could get for a title run. But re-building??

Locke just talks **** and hopes the ambiguity is seen as too smart to be fully understood. Like franklin, kinda.
 
I'm not saying he don't, but that iznt what I'm saying.

I'm saying he is a man child. I think he plays hard. Maybe he can learn. What the problem iz?

He puts up so-so numbers playing the equivalent of high schoolers. He had 2 months that he shot it well (in his career) and Wes Mantooth drilled it into everyone's minds that he's a prolific 3pt threat. Not. He's physical specimen that just isn't very good at basketball (to be highly touted, that is).
 
I guess I don't even get it.. I could see it MAYBE if we were poised to contend and just wanted the most solid bench/rotation guys we could get for a title run. But re-building??

Locke just talks **** and hopes the ambiguity is seen as too smart to be fully understood. Like franklin, kinda.

I mean why should it be black and white? Either pick a potential All Star, or pick a contributor?

Why not pick guys like Kawhii who everyone can see has the potential to contribute right away as well as having some upside potential as well (albeit less than if we're looking at someone in top #5).
 
I mean why should it be black and white? Either pick a potential All Star, or pick a contributor?

Why not pick guys like Kawhii who everyone can see has the potential to contribute right away as well as having some upside potential as well (albeit less than if we're looking at someone in top #5).

Locke can't say that, apparently.. because people would just say, duh.

Instead, he has to scrunch up a bunch of words and toss them around and say something he thinks sounds profound.

Btw, Catchall is one of my absolute favorite posters here, so no offense to you, personally, on your posting what Locke said.
 
Locke can't say that, apparently.. because people would just say, duh.

Instead, he has to scrunch up a bunch of words and toss them around and say something he thinks sounds profound.

Btw, Catchall is one of my absolute favorite posters here, so no offense to you, personally, on your posting what Locke said.

What? It was Mellow who originally brought up Locke's theory.
 
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