Following potential 2013 draftees
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Chargers Jazz Angels
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as far as McCollum is concerned I think teams that need 2 guards are going to shy away from a 6-3 with average measurements.
mccollum's best chance in the nba is as a pg. I don't think he can guard nba 2s. you can't play him next to Rubio and playing lillard would have to guard the other teams 2 doesn't make sense.
philly could take him but they desperately need bigs.
okc I think would take him but the need a big more then they need scoring off the bench. this is another reason I think swapping pick with okc is important.
Dallas could also take him as he is ready to play now but I think Dallas picks a stash player for salary cap reasons.
mccollum's best chance in the nba is as a pg. I don't think he can guard nba 2s. you can't play him next to Rubio and playing lillard would have to guard the other teams 2 doesn't make sense.
philly could take him but they desperately need bigs.
okc I think would take him but the need a big more then they need scoring off the bench. this is another reason I think swapping pick with okc is important.
Dallas could also take him as he is ready to play now but I think Dallas picks a stash player for salary cap reasons.
Chargers Jazz Angels
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my apologies
Chargers Jazz Angels
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there gave you some make up rep. feeling better.
Wow, that's depressing. Here's my lotto mock.
1 Cavs - trying to trade the pick for an established big; can't see who they'd get; think they'll still take Noel
2 Magic - I think they'd be open to a trade too, but otherwise McLemore is by and large the next pick
3 Wizards - I have no idea, but I'll say Len goes here.
4 Bobcats - I think they'd happily take Oladipo
5 Suns - I hear they like McCollum, but I don't want them to take McCollum, so I'll say Anthony Bennett.
6 NOLA - happily takes Otto Porter.
7 Sacto likes Carter-Williams and Shabazz and can't afford to trade down here. I'll say they take Carter-Williams.
8 Detroit may try to trade this pick, but if they keep it, I think they'll take Zeller. Why? Because I just saw this article.... https://www.news-herald.com/articles/2013/06/16/sports/nh7117202.txt?viewmode=fullstory
9 Minnesota wants a big SG. Shabazz seems like that guy, but Pope is a better shooter so I think they'll take Caldwell-Pope.
10 Portlandia gladly takes Shabazz of the Clan Muhammad.
11 Philadelphia takes Steven Adams with open arms.
12. OKC says 'drat' we wanted Adams, and they'll try to trade the pick....giving Utah McCollum and #32 for #14 and #21.
13. Dallas takes Gobert or Karasev and plans on keeping him overseas.
14. Utah drafts Franklin or Giannis for OKC and sits out the rest of the first round.
^^^
Who's taking Burke?
Who's taking Burke?
b_line
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Uhh, so Burke fell outta the lotto? I like cj for the jazz though.
Oops. I guess Burke really could fall to 13 or 14. That's interesting.
Burke isn't falling past 12 don't kid yourselves
Maybe the player doesn't want to go to a bad team. Yes they lose some money short term but long term if they are on a contender they can recoup that money in advertising/shoe contract and a big second contract (due to having more success). I rather make a little less money and play for a team like LA/SA then have the Bobcats draft me and get my brains beaten in every year.
Besides, the fact that the fans would blame the high pick draftee if the team didn't improve. I am not say this is a major consideration why guys wait another year but this might be a small part of it. Another factor is the player feels they are not ready yet which is probably a better reason why they wait another year.
Not bad. Obvi Larkin is too high, tho.
I'd say no chance Jazz move up for Bazz.. but want to be prepared in case he's there at 14. Just my guess.
GermanStandard
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1. Cavs - Nerlens Noel
2. Magic - Ben McLemore
3. Wizards - Otto Porter
4. Bobcats - Alex Len
5. Suns - Victor Oladipo
6. Pelicans - Trey Burke
7. Kings - Anthony Bennett
8. Pistons - Shabazz Muhammad
9. Timberwolves - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
10. Trail Blazers - Cody Zeller
11. 76ers - CJ McCollum
12. Thunder - Steven Adams
13. Mavericks - Dario Saric (parking in Europe though)
14. Jazz - Dennis Schröder
2. Magic - Ben McLemore
3. Wizards - Otto Porter
4. Bobcats - Alex Len
5. Suns - Victor Oladipo
6. Pelicans - Trey Burke
7. Kings - Anthony Bennett
8. Pistons - Shabazz Muhammad
9. Timberwolves - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
10. Trail Blazers - Cody Zeller
11. 76ers - CJ McCollum
12. Thunder - Steven Adams
13. Mavericks - Dario Saric (parking in Europe though)
14. Jazz - Dennis Schröder
Nba.com has a nice article about Bazz and other prospects.
https://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/06/15/in-defense-of-shabazz-muhammad/?ls=nbahpsplit3
I am still not sold on Bazz being a team player and I have concerns about what position is he (SF/SG), however this article addresses his attitude issue. It will be interesting to see what type of comments come out after his workout with Jazz.
https://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/06/15/in-defense-of-shabazz-muhammad/?ls=nbahpsplit3
I am still not sold on Bazz being a team player and I have concerns about what position is he (SF/SG), however this article addresses his attitude issue. It will be interesting to see what type of comments come out after his workout with Jazz.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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They also worked out CJ and Zeller. Both are expected to be picked before the jazz's first pick. Did I miss anyone?
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Just the fact that he worked out for us shows me his people realize he may slip. If he slips to 14, and we pick up Schroeder or Larkin @ 21 I think
most people are satisfied with this draft.
I'm sorry for saying it .. but this article is saying the same thing I've been telling so many on here for a year now (looking at you more than anyone, Numb).
No, the article doesn't make it true.. but it kills me that some people take one little clip, or one little negative article and put so much stock into it.
I've watched the kid play (live) for years.. and I know what he is. This whole 'attitude problem' thing was completely unfair.
I may be guilty of over-compensating, but my mock I put in here a couple weeks ago had him at 3.. just to show my faith the naysayers are wrong. (And I'm talking about a kid that chose UCLA over Kentucky, lol)
mellow
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About Saric and foreign players hoping to go lower.
I forgot that a 2nd round pick is not bound to the NBA rookie contract scale. They can sign any contract. Another advantage the Euros have over the NCAA kids is that they can declare, and then basically hide only contacting teams they want to play for (Spurs).
Saric might be hoping he can slip into the 2nd round next year.
I forgot that a 2nd round pick is not bound to the NBA rookie contract scale. They can sign any contract. Another advantage the Euros have over the NCAA kids is that they can declare, and then basically hide only contacting teams they want to play for (Spurs).
Saric might be hoping he can slip into the 2nd round next year.
Jonathan Givony @DraftExpress Alex Abrines and Marko Todorovic are keeping their names in the draft, according to their agent Igor Crespo: "That was the plan all along."
Alex Abrines and Marko Todorovic are both playing in the ACB Finals right now with Barcelona (series tied 2-2). Hoping to go in 2nd round.
Neither Alex Abrines or Marko Todorovic will conduct a medical examination or participate in any NBA workouts before the draft.
Logic is if Marko Todorovic and Alex Abrines go in the second round or undrafted they can negotiate any contract they want with a NBA team.
If they are drafted in the first round (like Igor Crespo's client Nikola Mirotic was) they'd be bound by the NBA rookie scale for 3 years.
Alex Abrines and Marko Todorovic are both playing in the ACB Finals right now with Barcelona (series tied 2-2). Hoping to go in 2nd round.
Neither Alex Abrines or Marko Todorovic will conduct a medical examination or participate in any NBA workouts before the draft.
Logic is if Marko Todorovic and Alex Abrines go in the second round or undrafted they can negotiate any contract they want with a NBA team.
If they are drafted in the first round (like Igor Crespo's client Nikola Mirotic was) they'd be bound by the NBA rookie scale for 3 years.
Stifle Tower
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With not much separation between the different players, I'm guessing the lottery will follow position of need a lot more closely than the traditional "BPA." When players are so close in terms of ranking, I think GM's would naturally look at need as the tie-breaker.