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orangello said:
Grant Traylor ‏@GrantTraylor
Andrew Wiggins will be attending Kansas

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
Huge news for Jayhawks on Wiggins. As a KU homer I'm ecstatic. With Joel Embiid and Wayne Seldon a fantastic incoming class.
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Hate to say I told you so, but my hunch was right in that he's the "lone wolf" type player, doesn't buy into the UK hype and wants to carve his own path to the NBA. Yes I thought it would be UNC based on the prestige that came with that - but he was even more "lone wolf" than I thought - he wanted to make a name for himself without any association to an established brand/player (UNC is sort of Michael's pond, Wiggins probably wanted to make his own "pond").

I think KU is a really good choice. It suits his said personality. He'll have a chance to be "the man" there, but with plenty of support to be successful. He'll get the exposure he needs. Can he win a title? I don't know enough about KU's roster next year to make a call.

But 1 thing's for sure, it won't be "Pitino's team" or "Calipari's team", if KU win it next year, it'll be 100% because of Wiggins. And I think that's just how he likes it.
 
PKM said:
There have been some TERRIBLE choices.. this one isn't that bad. I think from a mktg/branding standpoint UK was the absolute easy choice. Winning a Nat'l Championship was a possibility at either UK or UNC.. but I'm not certain that's as big of priority as kids like to say it is. If he were my kid, I would have advised the schools in the following order;

1) UK - unprecedented exposure. Nike/ESPN/etc were chomping at the bit to run with the greatest team of all time stuff.. maybe Andrew didn't want that level of hype.. but it would have been undeniable exposure. (on the downside.. no matter how good you are, there are only so many minutes with 6 Burger boys and WCS/Poythress/Wiltjer returning)

2) UNC - Branded as the next MJ, shot at a title.. BUT no coach has done less with more talent than Roy Williams (an undeniable statistical fact).

3) Kansas - Still plenty of exposure and plenty of minutes.

4) FSU - total joke.. finalist only because of parents.. only school that would have been a huge mistake.
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Reported for butt-hurt.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
i love it this really levels the playingfield, kentucky would have cruised with wiggins...

so now that the dust has settled, PKM before i go please do me the honor of telling me why Julius Randle is certainly better than Noah Vonleh and Aaron Gordon, i dont know enough, from what ive seen, Vonleh is the sleeper, i cant trade Hayward fast enough if we have Vonleh..

i actually see it like this

Wiggins
Vonleh
Gordon
Randle
Parker

is that absurd??? the thing that gets me with vonleh is he looks like Tyreke Evans/Durant/Bosh... way better than Harrison Barnes
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Vonleh has tremendous upside but is questionable in reaching his full potential due to decision making and just an overall concern for having 'it' upstairs.

The reason Randle is so cemented at #2 behind Wiggins is relentlessness. He's got killer strength, a tireless motor, great with the ball, range, and a TRUE leader. I am extremely excited to have Randle and always felt he was a bigger need, by far, than Wiggins for THIS team. (not to say I wasn't loving the idea of having both)

I really like Gordon, A LOT, but his game will progress a bit more slowly, imo. But it WILL get there. He needs more offensive moves to be productive in the NBA... he's such a great comp to Griffin that it's remarkable.
 
Oh yeah .. and Chris Walker is the real deal.. head case, potential locker room cancer, but immense talent. He begged to come to UK, btw.. even begged Calipari via twitter... but Cal said he wasn't the right personality/fit.

Watch for another kid that's going to BLOW UP. Embiid, freshman out of Kansas..
 
PKM said:
Oh yeah .. and Chris Walker is the real deal.. head case, potential locker room cancer, but immense talent. He begged to come to UK, btw.. even begged Calipari via twitter... but Cal said he wasn't the right personality/fit.

Watch for another kid that's going to BLOW UP. Embiid, freshman out of Kansas..
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Ok, so you've just validated PgGod_AlecBurks ... ??

Here you go man, you've been validated, you're now qualified & certified.
 
PKM said:
Wtf are you even talking about? Never mind.. I'm sure you'll just type out some more indiscernible nonsense.
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Well PgGod seems to be the first one to have brought up Chris Walker in this '14 draft thread? Then you just said Chris Walker was "the real deal"?

Seems to me that validates him as legit (and in the process validating everything he had posted over the past 48 hours, no?).
 
I love what I see from Randle but I am concerned about one thing, can he keep the weight off?

I love what he can do but I'm concerned that he will have a daily fight with his weight and if he gains too much he will lose a lot of that athleticism and explosiveness.

Is that a valid concern?
 
PKM said:
Wtf are you even talking about? Never mind.. I'm sure you'll just type out some more indiscernible nonsense.
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Hotttnickkk said:
Well PgGod seems to be the first one to have brought up Chris Walker in this '14 draft thread? Then you just said Chris Walker was "the real deal"?

Seems to me that validates him as legit (and in the process validating everything he had posted over the past 48 hours, no?).
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No.
 
orangello said:
I love what I see from Randle but I am concerned about one thing, can he keep the weight off?

I love what he can do but I'm concerned that he will have a daily fight with his weight and if he gains too much he will lose a lot of that athleticism and explosiveness.

Is that a valid concern?
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Srs question.. why are you concerned about it? Link to an article or something?
 
PKM said:
Srs question.. why are you concerned about it? Link to an article or something?
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No link, just pure observation. For some reason I get a Zach Randolph vibe looking at him. They both have very different games but to me it seems like they have the same body type.


The reason that I ask is because if I was to list the top 5 players for this incoming class it would look like this:

Wiggins
Randle
Parker
Harrison
Gordon

I'm high on the kid, that's why I ask, cause I care.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Why are you so afraid to acknowledge that PgGod_Burks is legit talent? Nobody has even heard/talked about Chris Walker. The fact that you 2 sees eye to eye on this tells me PgGod_Burks got legit talent.
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A lot of people know about Chris Walker. Just cause you are new to him doesn't mean that the rest of us are.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Why are you so afraid to acknowledge that PgGod_Burks is legit talent? Nobody has even heard/talked about Chris Walker. The fact that you 2 sees eye to eye on this tells me PgGod_Burks got legit talent.
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You stated that because I agreed that Walker is a legit talent that that meant I agree with everything the guy has said in the last 48 hours.. and I certainly do not.. stop acting retarded.
 
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