Following potential 2014 draftees

[The Midnight]

So you would rather take what you see as a safe bet than shoot for the stars.(poss championship)

Isn't this the kind of thinking that got the jazz stuck in mediocrity?

It's up to the Ping Pong balls bro....


Since 1990, only 3 teams that has the worst record has ever won the lottery. In fact you have a better chance if you're 2nd, 3rd, or 5th (4th worst team has never won it).

Source:
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/5/21/4348616/nba-draft-lottery-history-derrick-rose-lebron-james

 

[Stifle Tower]

So you would rather take what you see as a safe bet than shoot for the stars.(poss championship)

Isn't this the kind of thinking that got the jazz stuck in mediocrity?

No, I just think he's saying there's a very slim chance Utah winds up with the #1 or #2 pick. Even if Utah finished with the WORST record in the league - which I think is unlikely given the rosters of Boston, Orlando and Phoenix - the Jazz would only have a 46% chance of winding up with the #1 or #2 pick. Let's say the Jazz finish with the 5th worst record. The chance of getting Wiggins or Parker is only 18.5%.

Outside of T3K3's profanity, I feel the same way: I'd be ecstatic if the Jazz got that lucky. But I'm not going to be moping around if we end up with a fantastic player like Randle, Harrison, etc. And the idea of combining assets to trade up for Wiggins? Not going to happen. This is a guy viewed as the next LeBron, Kobe or MJ. No one is going to trade out of the #1. Possibly, we could have a shot at Parker if he's ranked fairly even with Randle, Harrison or others. But it would likely take the #3 or #4 and hoping GS' pick also falls in the lottery. It will be THAT expensive to move up...if the #2 team even considers it.

 

[♪alt13]

Your hoping for Andrew Harrison? What do you have against Wiggins anyway? You wouldn't take him even if we did get lucky and draft first would you?

 

[♪alt13]

No, I just think he's saying there's a very slim chance Utah winds up with the #1 or #2 pick. Even if Utah finished with the WORST record in the league - which I think is unlikely given the rosters of Boston, Orlando and Phoenix - the Jazz would only have a 46% chance of winding up with the #1 or #2 pick. Let's say the Jazz finish with the 5th worst record. The chance of getting Wiggins or Parker is only 18.5%.

Outside of T3K3's profanity, I feel the same way: I'd be ecstatic if the Jazz got that lucky. But I'm not going to be moping around if we end up with a fantastic player like Randle, Harrison, etc. And the idea of combining assets to trade up for Wiggins? Not going to happen. This is a guy viewed as the next LeBron, Kobe or MJ. No one is going to trade out of the #1. Possibly, we could have a shot at Parker if he's ranked fairly even with Randle, Harrison or others. But it would likely take the #3 or #4 and hoping GS' pick also falls in the lottery. It will be THAT expensive to move up...if the #2 team even considers it.

nah he's not. Go back a few days. Hottnikkk's a straight up wiggins hater.

 

[spycam1]

It's up to the Ping Pong balls bro....


Since 1990, only 3 teams that has the worst record has ever won the lottery. In fact you have a better chance if you're 2nd, 3rd, or 5th (4th worst team has never won it).

Source:
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/5/21/4348616/nba-draft-lottery-history-derrick-rose-lebron-james

No...

The team with the worst record has the best statistical chance of winning it. Just because the team with the worst record has won it fewer times than they're supposed to doesn't mean the chances have changed. That's like if you flipped a coin 10 times and it landed on tails every single time and you said, "There's a 100% chance it's going to be tails."

 

[The Midnight]

No...

The team with the worst record has the best statistical chance of winning it. Just because the team with the worst record has won it fewer times than they're supposed to doesn't mean the chances have changed. That's like if you flipped a coin 10 times and it landed on tails every single time and you said, "There's a 100% chance it's going to be tails."

Hahaha.. I should have said "Historically......."

 

[A-Train (old)]

I would rather just have the worst record and guarantee us a top-4 pick. We would probably end up with #2 or #3 which is fine with me.

With getting the worst record, it guarantees us one of Wiggins, Parker, Randle, Gordon, Exum, or Harrison/

 

[spycam1]

I would rather just have the worst record and guarantee us a top-4 pick. We would probably end up with #2 or #3 which is fine with me.

With getting the worst record, it guarantees us one of Wiggins, Parker, Randle, Gordon, Exum, or Harrison/

Yes, but I have a hard time seeing anyone "beating" Philly out for the worst record.

 

[The Midnight]

nah he's not. Go back a few days. Hottnikkk's a straight up wiggins hater.

Wow.. the ignorance is overwhelming.

 

[A-Train (old)]

Yes, but I have a hard time seeing anyone "beating" Philly out for the worst record.

Or Phoenix.

 

[The Midnight]

Yes, but I have a hard time seeing anyone "beating" Philly out for the worst record.

You never know.. East is gonna be pretty bad. The only team tanking in the West seems to be Phoenix & us.

 

[♪alt13]

Wow.. the ignorance is overwhelming.

Come on every time some one says wiggins you throw out another name. I hope for wiggins, but would be happy with consolation prize. You a wiggins hater.

 

[A-Train (old)]

Honestly guys I really don't think we're going to be as bad as everyone thinks.

We have Favors and Kanter downlow. They are no slouches.

Hayward is becoming a good player who averaged 14 PPG off the bench for the most part.

Burks will be good as will Burke.

I am predicting we end up with like the #6 pick.

 

[The Midnight]

Come on every time some one says wiggins you throw out another name. I hope for wiggins, but would be happy with consolation prize. You a wiggins hater.

What?????? Bro, I'm not a Wiggins HATER. Is that clear enough for you??????????

 

[spycam1]

You never know.. East is gonna be pretty bad. The only team tanking in the West seems to be Phoenix & us.

You never know, but if I was going to bet money on it, I'd put it on Philly.

 

[♪alt13]

What?????? Bro, I'm not a Wiggins HATER. Is that clear enough for you??????????

Need more caps. Then I'll believe you.

 

[The Midnight]

You never know, but if I was going to bet money on it, I'd put it on Philly.

Absolutely... also:

D.J. Augustin has found a home in Canada, from Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports: “Point guard D.J. Augustin has reached agreement on a one-year, $1.2 million deal with the Toronto Raptors, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Pretty sure if the Jazz wanted to compete, they would have taken Augustin no questions asked. $1.2m 1-year deal is dirt cheap. This tells me we'll be TANKING... HARD!!!!

 

[A-Train (old)]

Hotttnickkk always throws out another name because come on guys we are getting our hopes up for something that is complete luck of the draw. At best we will have a 25% chance of Wiggins, not that convincing. It's best for us to really get to know the other prospects because there is more in the draft than just Wiggins. If we get a top-5 pick I will still be ecstatic.

 

[The Midnight]

Hotttnickkk always throws out another name because come on guys we are getting our hopes up for something that is complete luck of the draw. At best we will have a 25% chance of Wiggins, not that convincing. It's best for us to really get to know the other prospects because there is more in the draft than just Wiggins. If we get a top-5 pick I will still be ecstatic.

This. Anyone who can't see this *cough*heyhey*cough* needs to be looked at.

 

[spycam1]

Hotttnickkk always throws out another name because come on guys we are getting our hopes up for something that is complete luck of the draw. At best we will have a 25% chance of Wiggins, not that convincing. It's best for us to really get to know the other prospects because there is more in the draft than just Wiggins. If we get a top-5 pick I will still be ecstatic.

We all would.