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Thee jazz fan said:
Still a fan of his.
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Could be the sf version of Gordon Hayward. Could be. Good insurance if Hayward wants too much money. The only down side I see is that he's not the shooter Hayward is, but you don't find many 6-10 forwards that can do what Saric can. Wouldn't mind him with the GS pick if Burke destroys the tank

Embiid and Saric would be nice
 
NUMBERICA said:
Right now, my rankings are:

1-3 Parker, Wiggins, Embiid in some order (I would honestly be just as happy with one as the other)
4 Exum
5 Randle
6 Smart

This will probably change.
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Money.

BTP said:
You go by his defensive capabilities...And I don't see it being a good thing if he chases around ball dominant point guards 40 min a game other than playing passing lanes on the wing chasing over 1 cross screen a possession, sometimes not even that and just helping strip the roll man.
Kobe and Jordan are also shooting guards who have the ball more than their point guards on each possession. It's simply about defense and on offense you go with whom you're comfortable creating your offense. Jordan and Kobe didn't defend the PGs so they were SGs.
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I disagreed with the first sentence.. as you can switch offense/defense.. so I stopped reading.
/prima donna

Jako said:
Dont be sorry that is my point
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lmao

Jako said:
To be honest Burke needs the ball to make things happen also.
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true

NCJazz said:
A lot of scouts really high on Saric. IF he developed an outside shot by the end of the season I think he could jump up to around 6th. Had 22 and 12 in his last game.
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a lot of scouts are wrong

Thee jazz fan said:
Still a fan of his.
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and so are you .. still
 
Thee jazz fan said:
So.... Why?
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List his forreal strengths vs. his forreal weaknesses. Be real about it. That should tell you that in a damn deep draft that his strengths outweighing his weaknesses is scary as hell. If anyone selected in THIS lottery that is likely going to be subpar defensively, then you better be DAMN SURE they will be near elite offensively.
 
PKM said:
List his forreal strengths vs. his forreal weaknesses. Be real about it. That should tell you that in a damn deep draft that his strengths outweighing his weaknesses is scary as hell. If anyone selected in THIS lottery that is likely going to be subpar defensively, then you better be DAMN SURE they will be near elite offensively.
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Who are we going to get at 14 that is elite or doesn't have flaws.
 
Parker is the most sure-fire prospect that I've seen in the 6 years I've been paying attention. That's not nothing. Wiggins is possibly the most athletic besides also being very good already. Embiid is the best big prospect I've seen in that time as well.

This draft might not be 10-superstar deep, but those top-3 alone dwarf the outset of any draft I've followed closely.
 
Every year I get excited about a college PF with stand-out athleticism who can score the ball--Beasley, Derrick Williams, TRob, etc., and every year they disappoint.

I'm starting to agree with Numberica's basic rankings and could see Randle slipping behind Exum and Smart to the 5 or 6 spot, unless PF is a compelling position of need for a top lotto team.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Parker is the most sure-fire prospect that I've seen in the 6 years I've been paying attention. That's not nothing. Wiggins is possibly the most athletic besides also being very good already. Embiid is the best big prospect I've seen in that time as well.

This draft might not be 10-superstar deep, but those top-3 alone dwarf the outset of any draft I've followed closely.
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and this thread has been VERY focused on the top 5.. there is some very good talent throughout the 2nd round.. we just haven't analyzed it here.
 
Embiid looks to me like the most exciting "true-center" prospect in college since Greg Oden. I see Anthony Davis and Andre Drummond as PF/Cs.
 
Catchall said:
Every year I get excited about a college PF with stand-out athleticism who can score the ball--Beasley, Derrick Williams, TRob, etc., and every year they disappoint.

I'm starting to agree with Numberica's basic rankings and could see Randle slipping behind Exum and Smart to the 5 or 6 spot, unless PF is a compelling position of need for a top lotto team.
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I started that, not numbs. He's a coattail rider.
 
PKM said:
and this thread has been VERY focused on the top 5.. there is some very good talent throughout the 2nd round.. we just haven't analyzed it here.
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I thought last year was a fairly deep and even draft. This year there are a few stand-outs, like Hood, the Harrisons, maybe Selden, but I'm not seeing it being that deep.
 
PF is the position where style of play swings, but I generally don't think you want your best player there. What I'm trying to get at is that you ideally want your PF to be a good defensive player, spread the floor, or otherwise be able to exploit a mismatch (particularly large/powerful or work a lot on the perimeter). Julius Randle doesn't seem to possess any of those qualities (and neither does Aaron Gordon).

Julius Randle was billed as this PF with ample perimeter ability, a good jumpshot, and with plenty of athleticism to spare. I haven't seen any of that, although I admit to being plenty naive. What I see is a bruiser that isn't very big, very fast, or very explosive, and he doesn't seem have a great jumpshot or defensive ability either.

Meh. But I of course could be wrong.
 
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