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franklin said:
Everyone who puts him into a top ten list.

We have little video. What we do have is not impressive at all. I guarantee whatever team drafts him inside the top ten will see a GM fired soon after.
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Blindly demoting him

Exum is a guy I know absolutely nothing about tho so I can't disagree. Not really concerned with where he is picked unless the Jazz get him. Seems like he'll be an unknown all the way until the draft
 
PKM said:
Some of this will contradict what I said above as I am forced to actually fill slots, but here goes. (obviously largely depends who comes out)

1) Wiggins
2) Parker
3) Embiid
4) Exum
5) Randle
6) Vonleh (risky, but what I would do)
7) Smart
8) Gordon
9) WCS
10) Hood
11) Young
12) Jerami Grant
13) Lavine
14) Harris
15) TJ Warren
16) Andrew Harrison
17) McDermott
18) Saric
19) Robinson III
20) Carson
21) Dekker
22) Payne
23) Christon
24) McGary
25) Selden
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I don't know how much of a sense of whether these players will declare or not, but if you do, which players are most likely to stay in college next year, and which will leave?

Do you think the Harrison's will play another year at Kentucky, how about WCS? I think a lot of these players in the 15-25 range might opt to play another year, as well as 2-3 in the top 15. Just look at how many stayed another last year knowing that this year was going to have a much deeper draft (WCS, McGary, Austin, Smart, I'm sure there are others that were possible lottery picks that opted to stay).
 
franklin said:
It boggles me how some of you with normally good taste are blindly promoting Exum.
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When it comes to Exum, there's not much any of us can do but take the words of scouts. I've watched scouting reports on him, some highlights, one full game, and I don't really see a "superstar", but scouts seem to, so I'm just going to trust them to an extent...for now, at least.
 
LazyD said:
Wow, we think very similarly. Kinda freaky tbh

Only problem is I've never seen Gordon, Lavine, Hood play, and I've never even heard of this Walker guy until now.

I like McDermott better than most, but seventeen is probably high enough. I don't think I like young as much as you do, maybe drop him down a couple.

After watching Vonleh yesterday I'm really enamored with this guy. Could be a freaking animal.
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I was only able to watch a few minutes. What stood out about him to you?
 
franklin said:
Everyone who puts him into a top ten list.

We have little video. What we do have is not impressive at all. I guarantee whatever team drafts him inside the top ten will see a GM fired soon after.
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I think it says something that PKM would take Exum over his Kentucky boy Randle (even if it's only by a tiny bit).
 
Franklin does have a point. I never trust what scouts say about some of these unknown players. Scouts are usually wrong, and sometimes it's not even close. I don't have an opinion on him as of now, but I'm sure I'll form one as the draft gets around the corner. Hell I trust PKM more then I trust most of these scouts, so I will keep Exum.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Franklin does have a point. I never trust what scouts say about some of these unknown players. Scouts are usually wrong, and sometimes it's not even close. I don't have an opinion on him as of now, but I'm sure I'll form one as the draft gets around the corner. Hell I trust PKM more then I trust most of these scouts, so I will keep Exum.
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Huh? If you trust PKM, then you trust the scouts since a great deal of what he says isn't necessarily his opinion, it's the opinion of the scouts he talks to.
 
franklin said:
Everyone who puts him into a top ten list.

We have little video. What we do have is not impressive at all. I guarantee whatever team drafts him inside the top ten will see a GM fired soon after.
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In fairness to me, I was 'promoting' him before he was ever on any mock draft or being mentioned anywhere at all. How/why? Because I had several scouts gush about him that had seen him play and scouted him in person. Whereas I don't have much to go on personally, I am riding the coattails of scouts employed to know this stuff by NBA teams. Might they be wrong? Of course they could.. but it's not completely 'blind.'
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
I'm pleasantly surprised to see Vonleh getting some love. it should be noted hes a really high character kid with tireless work ethic, currently taking 9 credits when he only needs 6. hes obsessed with hoops and was on campus 4 days after he graduated HS. theres a story of his family taking a vacation to disney world for a week and instead of going to the parks he had his mom drop him off at the YMCA to play ball for 10 hours each day.



IU plays Michigan St. saturday 2pm est on CBS, that should be a good test
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Yes, because the Sparties have a long and experienced front court.
 
spycam1 said:
I was only able to watch a few minutes. What stood out about him to you?
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His athleticism is nuts. Should be a great shot blocker and rebounder with his length. He's stronger than I thought he was and should continue to get stronger.

Offensively he can't do much of anything, but if he gets any semblance of a mid-range jumper and even the slightest ball-handling ability he looks like one of those guys that is impossible to defend on the elbow. Could live at the line. Could really beast in transition.

He's really raw tho, so it would be a bit of a project
 
sgjazzfan said:
I don't know how much of a sense of whether these players will declare or not, but if you do, which players are most likely to stay in college next year, and which will leave?

Do you think the Harrison's will play another year at Kentucky, how about WCS? I think a lot of these players in the 15-25 range might opt to play another year, as well as 2-3 in the top 15. Just look at how many stayed another last year knowing that this year was going to have a much deeper draft (WCS, McGary, Austin, Smart, I'm sure there are others that were possible lottery picks that opted to stay).
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Way too early to tell. We're not even to conference play yet.. well, barely.. and so much gets decided in the final 10 games or so of the year.
If the Harrison's get the feel they're 15 or below I think they'll stay. I think WCS is gone... but it's just too early to know.
 
LazyD said:
His athleticism is nuts. Should be a great shot blocker and rebounder with his length. He's stronger than I thought he was and should continue to get stronger.

Offensively he can't do much of anything, but if he gets any semblance of a mid-range jumper and even the slightest ball-handling ability he looks like one of those guys that is impossible to defend on the elbow. Could live at the line. Could really beast in transition.

He's really raw tho, so it would be a bit of a project
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Huh. He doesn't look that explosive to me. He seems to have a decent handle based on his high school highlights... not a bad jumper either. Not what I was expecting to hear.
 
spycam1 said:
Huh? If you trust PKM, then you trust the scouts since a great deal of what he says isn't necessarily his opinion, it's the opinion of the scouts he talks to.
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Basically what I'm saying is I'm a skeptic about Exum, and don't put much stock in the scouts when it comes to these unknown players, but to me PKM is credible, so I'm keeping an eye on Exum.


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spycam1 said:
Huh. He doesn't look that explosive to me. He seems to have a decent handle based on his high school highlights... not a bad jumper either. Not what I was expecting to hear.
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Not necessarily his jumping, but his mobility and quickness look really good. Plus his length will create problems
 
d@!!0n0rcutt said:
If you have seen Jabari Parker play on Duke then you have seen Rodney Hood play. Just tryin to help a brother out, that's all no disrespect.
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I only saw the game against Kansas @ the beginning of the year, and I didn't know who Hood was or pay attention to him at all. I watched Parker, Wiggins, and Embiid. Kinda had that tunnel-vision going on
 
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