Following potential 2014 draftees
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Game6Conley
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♪alt13
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I don't.
Unless you count late stage syphilis. Really it's no big deal. I have unprotected sex like all the time.
Just watch from the timestamp the crossovers, in and out dribblings and in/out crossovers. Just focus on the first step. After that he slows it down because there's no need to keep the speed up when he can't control playmaking at it efficiently.
Let's just put it this way: Out of 100 possessions when you go full speed you'll still be challenged 20 times at the rim by help and they won't help you out with whistles.
When you control your tempo your opponent will recover to chase down your attack maybe 5 times out of 100. And when you're going full speed you'll miss more open guys cutting and resets when help is there.
You can be sure that NBA guys have video editing software to watch sequences picture by picture. Most paid FIBA streams are 30 fps. Which means they have an accuracy of 66.7 ms on timings. They'll compare his shake and bakes against Jamal Crossovers and guys like this.
There is a reason he's that high up on mocks. You just have to identify the moves that can translate and build an opinion on him.
But I respect your xenophobia and don't want to question your opinion.
Simply show how different people could look at the guy.
And I think the risk of Gordon never learning how to aim at the basket, Randle never showing interest in playing defense and developing a well rounded game plus range, Wiggins not becoming a consistent lethal weapon in the half court, Embiid having back problems and his development slowing down too early considering where he was drafted and Smart's shot never getting to the next level ARE just as real as the possibility that Exum's skillset was overrated.
Just because he blows by white Serbians doesn't mean they are slow. They learn basketball on professional teams. And on professional teams you don't see anything other than garbage time when you're a defensive liability. And I'd say that showing 90% of your lateral quickness in a defensive stance is worth as much as 30% of the lateral quickness of the Harrison twins in a I DONT GIVE A F BOUT DEFENSE stance.
That's hyperbole but translates to quite some players in the NCAA. AAU ruins most young guys more than the few good college coaches can repair within 1-2 years.
There's no real Australian league. And I can assure you if you ask the guys participating the FIBA U19 and Hoops Summit aren't a joke to them. That's a chance to present themselves from their best side. There's deep teams participating and just because you like a lot Americans think that every baller from outside the US sucks until they've participated in an all star games doesn't mean you're right.
THIS
My problem with Kanter is that he can't put it on the floor.
Right now the offense I see in his games consists of
-open midrange 2s
-putback layups
-successful low post moves when not being doubled
If he had decent handles that he decided to use in traffic he could operate from the elbow. When you give him time to grow there and make quick decisions he would be valuable. But right now you have to cover for his *** defensively where you never can assign him to the guy that sets screens.
My option a) Send him elsewhere for a decent return
b) Give him his fourth year but be very reluctant in restricted free agency, because some idiot is going to bid on his size.
strawberry Harrison?
Aaron Gordon is the truth.
All hail Air Gordon.
All hail Air Gordon.
Very fair statement. I may not completely agree, but I get where you are coming from with Randle.
Game6Conley
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Shabazz Napier hasent gotten enough credit, myself included, im starting to think he gets drafted by a contender who needs a backup at the end of the 1st.
I like the idea of players like Deonte Burton, Elfrid Payton, Semaj Christon, Jordan Clarkson at point but none are close to being ready to contribute next year like Shabazz
hes clutch and will grade out very high on intangibles/BBIQ, strong with the ball, has adequate playmaking skills and shot .398 from 3 on 6.1attempts per last season, .397 on 5.2attempts this season
6'1½" (in shoes) 185lbs with a 6'4" reach and can do a bit of everything including pesky on-ball defense, 5.9 rebounds per this year, all 4 seasons above 55steals, and was a key contributor as a freshman on the 2011 National Championship team.
hes limited a bit by turning 23 at the start of next season and not having bigtime speed or explosion, his athleticism is enough to blow by defenders and finish in transition in college with relative ease. hes got some crafty dribbling moves, very good at starting and stopping and step-back jumpers
I like the idea of players like Deonte Burton, Elfrid Payton, Semaj Christon, Jordan Clarkson at point but none are close to being ready to contribute next year like Shabazz
hes clutch and will grade out very high on intangibles/BBIQ, strong with the ball, has adequate playmaking skills and shot .398 from 3 on 6.1attempts per last season, .397 on 5.2attempts this season
6'1½" (in shoes) 185lbs with a 6'4" reach and can do a bit of everything including pesky on-ball defense, 5.9 rebounds per this year, all 4 seasons above 55steals, and was a key contributor as a freshman on the 2011 National Championship team.
hes limited a bit by turning 23 at the start of next season and not having bigtime speed or explosion, his athleticism is enough to blow by defenders and finish in transition in college with relative ease. hes got some crafty dribbling moves, very good at starting and stopping and step-back jumpers
Shabazz Napier hasent gotten enough credit, myself included, im starting to think he gets drafted by a contender who needs a backup at the end of the 1st.
I like the idea of players like Deonte Burton, Elfrid Payton, Semaj Christon, Jordan Clarkson at point but none are close to being ready to contribute next year like Shabazz
hes clutch and will grade out very high on intangibles/BBIQ, strong with the ball, has adequate playmaking skills and shot .398 from 3 on 6.1attempts per last season, .397 on 5.2attempts this season
6'1½" (in shoes) 185lbs with a 6'4" reach and can do a bit of everything including pesky on-ball defense, 5.9 rebounds per this year, all 4 seasons above 55steals, and was a key contributor as a freshman on the 2011 National Championship team.
hes limited a bit by turning 23 at the start of next season and not having bigtime speed or explosion, his athleticism is enough to blow by defenders and finish in transition in college with relative ease. hes got some crafty dribbling moves, very good at starting and stopping and step-back jumpers
Great post in GD college bb thread.
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framer
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Gordon is a much better man defender than AK47 was. His off the ball defense is probably almost comparable (in his prime AK was probably one of the best off ball defenders in the NBA.) If people want to bring in a new coach that is going to instill defensive intensity, you have to have someone like Gordon. Why wouldn't you want a lockdown defender at 2 maybe 3 positions? The good news is, that we are at worst likely to get one of Gordon or Randle. That makes me smile.
The Thriller
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Shabazz Napier hasent gotten enough credit, myself included, im starting to think he gets drafted by a contender who needs a backup at the end of the 1st.
I like the idea of players like Deonte Burton, Elfrid Payton, Semaj Christon, Jordan Clarkson at point but none are close to being ready to contribute next year like Shabazz
hes clutch and will grade out very high on intangibles/BBIQ, strong with the ball, has adequate playmaking skills and shot .398 from 3 on 6.1attempts per last season, .397 on 5.2attempts this season
6'1½" (in shoes) 185lbs with a 6'4" reach and can do a bit of everything including pesky on-ball defense, 5.9 rebounds per this year, all 4 seasons above 55steals, and was a key contributor as a freshman on the 2011 National Championship team.
hes limited a bit by turning 23 at the start of next season and not having bigtime speed or explosion, his athleticism is enough to blow by defenders and finish in transition in college with relative ease. hes got some crafty dribbling moves, very good at starting and stopping and step-back jumpers
Sounds like a perfect pickup for the Spurs.
A-Train (old)
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I forgot Cy was pimping Porter HARD last year.. Makes me want Gordon less and less..
lol
orangello
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You realize though that 99% of the board has been wrong about MCW?