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Following potential 2014 draftees

BTP said:
I think the biggest upside outside the concensus top8 aka the "best of the rest" have James Young, Dario Saric and Mario Hezonja in case he declares.

With Young it's a lot of background check.
Teams know his college shot selection and lackluster defense.
Everybody also knows that he's got the body and skills to be very good potentially. So if a team considers him in the low teens, they'll have to do a background check going back to his kindergarten and stuff to make sure he isn't JR Smith's secret soul mate.

With the internationals that's obviously a lot harder. Saric might get picked pretty early as well due to his achievements with Cibona Zagreb.
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Good post.

I really like the part about being jr smiths secret soul mate.
Lol
 
spycam1 said:
Sounds like a job for fabtrey!
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yup, Giannis hands are 10" by 10" he wasn't measured officially at the combine though. if that ball has a circumference of 29½" his hands are tremendous

i think the record for biggest hands is Greg Smith 9.8" length, 12" width (dx's database of these #'s is shotty at best)

i wonder how Clint Capela measures up to the Fabtrey standard they say his measurables are Anthony Davis-esque

222lbs, 6'11 in shoes, 7'4½" wingspan, with a 9'2½" standing reach, his athleticism passes the eye test easily, runs like the wind and has effortless and lightning quick lift off the ground

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Z35aXdpdU
 
orangello said:
Any news about your guys?

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I have inquired. I sincerely believe decisions have not been made yet (other than Randle going). So, I guess I'm saying I don't know anything.

My guess;
Randle - 99%
Young - 70%
WCS - 65%
Harrison's - 65%
Johnson - 50%
Poythress - 45%
Lee - 1%
 
PKM said:
I have inquired. I sincerely believe decisions have not been made yet (other than Randle going). So, I guess I'm saying I don't know anything.

My guess;
Randle - 99%
Young - 70%
WCS - 65%
Harrison's - 65%
Johnson - 50%
Poythress - 45%
Lee - 1%
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Harrisons should really go back (ala Trey Burke's sophomore year at MICH), unless Cal already has some superstar PG/SG combo lined up for next year.
 
PKM said:
Ive been told he is 'definitely' entering... but it's not a usual iron-clad source. Cant imagine he goes back though..
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I'd be surprised he'd announce via press conference that he's staying another year. That kind of would be overkill.

fishonjazz said:
Good post.

I really like the part about being jr smiths secret soul mate.
Lol
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Tried to think of a worst case comparison playstyle and personality wise.

PKM said:
I have inquired. I sincerely believe decisions have not been made yet (other than Randle going). So, I guess I'm saying I don't know anything.

My guess;
Randle - 99%
Young - 70%
WCS - 65%
Harrison's - 65%
Johnson - 50%
Poythress - 45%
Lee - 1%
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Yesterday's DX mock has the Harrisons removed from the 2014 mock. Maybe Givony got a hint about camp Harrison.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
yup, Giannis hands are 10" by 10" he wasn't measured officially at the combine though. if that ball has a circumference of 29½" his hands are tremendous

i think the record for biggest hands is Greg Smith 9.8" length, 12" width (dx's database of these #'s is shotty at best)

i wonder how Clint Capela measures up to the Fabtrey standard they say his measurables are Anthony Davis-esque

222lbs, 6'11 in shoes, 7'4½" wingspan, with a 9'2½" standing reach, his athleticism passes the eye test easily, runs like the wind and has effortless and lightning quick lift off the ground

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Z35aXdpdU
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First I've seen of this kid, thanks for sharing. Can he do anything besides dunk?
 
Chads take

Capela has been steadily rising on our draft board all year and will finally get to show his stuff on the big stage of the Nike Hoop Summit this weekend (Saturday at 7 p.m. ET on ESPN2). He's got size and athletic ability and has been putting up decent numbers in France. If he can have a big game for the international team on Saturday, he could even move up a few more spots on this board.
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Hotttnickkk said:
Harrisons should really go back (ala Trey Burke's sophomore year at MICH), unless Cal already has some superstar PG/SG combo lined up for next year.
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Kentucky has Tyler Ulis and Devin Booker.
If the high school scouting services are correct then Ulis prolly won't be ready from the get go and Booker will be slow as well. So there's plenty of room in kentucky's backcourt.

In the frontcourt though you have Trey Lyles and Karl Towns incoming. Both aren't exactly unskilled by what I read. So Marcus Lee and Dakari Johnson would have a lot to do to earn minutes.

That's why I think WCS basically is a lock to declare and should. Especially since his offense didn't improve since his first year. Nothing to learn for a guy like him in school.
In the NBA his low skill level won't ruin everyone else's offense and he'll be able to focus at what he's best at.
Plus he can work individually to develop a little bit of offense with real player development coaches privately and at his ballclub.

I think Poythress will be returning and he looks like the bad useless type of combo forward for NBA standards. I don't think he'll get further than summer league at this point. So prolly it's best for him to work on his outside game get a degree and head oversees as a stretch 4 that is surprisingly bouncy.
 
I am glad we are not Ina position to grab him though. Feels good to know we will almost certainly be inline to pick top 8 in an 8 man draft.
 
BTP said:
Tried to think of a worst case comparison playstyle and personality wise.
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I would throw cj miles out there as a worst case as well.

I dont like young because of his shot selectin and he reminds me of jr and cj.
But i do like his size, athleticism, and skillset and i acknowledge that he COULD end up being one of the steals in this draft.

Too big of a risk imo
 
Vermin said:
Chads take
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This is his take on Smart. Seems scouts are as split on him as we are here on JazzFanz...


He's now dropped to #8.


Smart would have been the No. 2 pick in the draft last year had he come out. Another year at school has dinged his stock a bit, but his late-season surge has put him on very solid ground in the top 10. Some scouts love him, some scouts aren't enamored at all, but Smart's range looks like it's Nos. 4-10 right now.
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franklin said:
First I've seen of this kid, thanks for sharing. Can he do anything besides dunk?
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on offense, not really. you can use him as a P + R guy, he can finish around the rim shooting over 71% in the french leagues from 2, other than that hes very raw, no jumper, 50% free throw guy, his BBIQ maybe his biggest knock

defensively he can do some things hes very quick, and can really defend the pick and roll. his greatest asset is rim protection he shows good timing and body control

he needs to add strength and a ton of polish but hes had a few games this year with flashes of great untapped potential, and his #s are steadily improving

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBeNz47nXTc

in this game he had 21 points in 28 minutes on 9/13 shooting, 9 rebounds, 7 assists 6 blocks and 2 steals
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
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is that a regulation sized ball ?
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of course it's a regular sized ball

and almost as big as brittney griner's. very impressive
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Look at the 2009 draft, it is really important who do you select:

1 L.A. Clippers
Blake Griffin --- great

2 Memphis Grizzlies
Hasheem Thabeet --- flop

3 Oklahoma City Thunder
James Harden --- great

4 Sacramento Kings
Tyreke Evans --- ok/good

5 Minnesota Timberwolves
Ricky Rubio --- ok/good

6 Minnesota Timberwolves
Jonny Flynn --- flop

7 Golden State Warriors
Stephen Curry --- great

8 New York Knicks
Jordan Hill --- bad

9 Toronto Raptors
DeMar DeRozan --- ok/good

10 Milwaukee Bucks
Brandon Jennings --- ok/good

11 New Jersey Nets
Terrence Williams --- bad

12 Charlotte Bobcats
Gerald Henderson --- ok

13 Indiana Pacers
Tyler Hansbrough --- bad

14 Phoenix Suns
Earl Clark --- bad

15 Detroit Pistons
Austin Daye --- bad

16 Chicago Bulls
James Johnson --- bad

17 Philadelphia 76ers
Jrue Holiday --- good/great

18 Minnesota Timberwolves
Ty Lawson --- good
(traded to Denver)

19 Atlanta Hawks
Jeff Teague --- ok/good

20 Utah Jazz
Eric Maynor --- bad

So please scout the players well and decide properly !!!
 
PKM said:
I have inquired. I sincerely believe decisions have not been made yet (other than Randle going). So, I guess I'm saying I don't know anything.

My guess;
Randle - 99%
Young - 70%
WCS - 65%
Harrison's - 65%
Johnson - 50%
Poythress - 45%
Lee - 1%
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Thanks for sharing.
 
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