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PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Brehs if u see any articles on Noah Vonleh from 2010-2012, you will read about a 6'7" point forward that brings the ball up the court vs a press

His handle is advanced for a player of his size/age, as ive posted before his HS coach said hed pay the price of admission just to watch him work dribbling drills

“Wait ‘til the NBA guys get a real good look at him. Imagine him, running through those ball-handling drills for them. They’re going to be stunned.”

I dont care to make excuses for him as his body of work speaks for itself, but to kill him over aggressiveness is a bit of a headscratcher to me when his role was setting screens and rebounding (not creating offense), he had 7 games of 10FGA's or more, thats it.

when considering Noah in the NBA i think what has to have the most appeal is his potential to be one of the premier P+R and Pick and Pop guys, which i dont think would qualify him as a "#1 option" but itd be close, was Chris Bosh in Toronto was a #1 guy? I think in the NBA you need a viable inside and an outside scoring punch to be viable, Noah could definitely fill one of those rolls
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I'm finally coming around to liking this kid. If he's BPA, and we draft him, I'd hope they have a Kanter trade in place.
 
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if he has grown as listed id think theres a legit chance he still may grow another inch too, that was one of the few things i had to say about Giannis in last years thread this one is a bit more of a guess but hes very young. his family is similarly tall like Giannis though, thats his 6'3 mom, his little sister is 6'3 also

im really waiting on his measurements, but i have a hunch he wouldn't have re-classified from the 2014 to the 2013 HS class unless he was going to measure well.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];822006 said:
I'm finally coming around to liking this kid. If he's BPA, and we draft him, I'd hope they have a Kanter trade in place.
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Why?
A team needs 4 bigs. Vonleh is raw, so he'll come off the bench initially. No need to trade anyone until the deadline. Better to let Kanter increase his value before pushing him out the door.
Give Kanter and Favors 30 mins; 25 to Vonleh; 10 to Gobert. And that doesn't account for injuries or foul trouble. Odd man out would be Evans. I like Jeremy, but he's just not a regular rotation player unless he either bulks up (virtually impossible) or can play SF (unlikely).

I think the real issue with the Jazz is determining if Hayward can play SF.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];822006 said:
I'm finally coming around to liking this kid. If he's BPA, and we draft him, I'd hope they have a Kanter trade in place.
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I watched Indiana quite a bit last year, and I would put Vonleh's "motor" questions squarely on the shoulders of his selfish dumb *** PG. They never tried to work Noah into the offense, but when he would get lucky and get a few touches early he would have a great game.
 
heres the DX draft with team needs

1 - Mil - Andrew Wiggins
2 - Phi - Jabari Parker
3 - Orl - Joel Embiid
4 - Uta - Dante Exum
5 - Bos - Julius Randle
6 - Lal - Marcus Smart
7 - Sac - Noah Vonleh
8 - Det - Doug McDermott
9 - Cle - Jusuf Nurkic
10-Phi - Dario Saric
11-Den- Aaron Gordon
12-Orl - Tyler Ennis
13-Min - Gary Harris
14-Phx - Nik Stauskas
15- Atl - James Young
16-Chi - T.J. Warren
17-Bos - Kyle Anderson
18-Phx - Clint Capela
19-Chi - K.J. McDaniels
20-Tor - Jerami Grant
21-Okc- Adriean Payne
22-Mem- Rodney Hood
23-Uta - Kristaps Porzingis
24-Cha - P.J. Hairston
25-Hou - Jordan Adams
26-Mia - Shabazz Napier
27-Phx - Elfrid Payton
28-Lac - Mitch McGary
29-Okc - Cleanthony Early
30-Sas - Zach LaVine

its crazy to see Aaron Gordon lower on a DX mock than Nbadarft.net's
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
heres the DX draft with team needs

1 - Mil - Andrew Wiggins
2 - Phi - Jabari Parker
3 - Orl - Joel Embiid
4 - Uta - Dante Exum
5 - Bos - Julius Randle
6 - Lal - Marcus Smart
7 - Sac - Noah Vonleh
8 - Det - Doug McDermott
9 - Cle - Jusuf Nurkic
10-Phi - Dario Saric
11-Den- Aaron Gordon
12-Orl - Tyler Ennis
13-Min - Gary Harris
14-Phx - Nik Stauskas
15- Atl - James Young
16-Chi - T.J. Warren
17-Bos - Kyle Anderson
18-Phx - Clint Capela
19-Chi - K.J. McDaniels
20-Tor - Jerami Grant
21-Okc- Adriean Payne
22-Mem- Rodney Hood
23-Uta - Kristaps Porzingis
24-Cha - P.J. Hairston
25-Hou - Jordan Adams
26-Mia - Shabazz Napier
27-Phx - Elfrid Payton
28-Lac - Mitch McGary
29-Okc - Cleanthony Early
30-Sas - Zach LaVine

its crazy to see Aaron Gordon lower on a DX mock than Nbadarft.net's
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Would be ok with Exum, Pass on Porzingas .....
 
This is what DX has said for the Jazz:

4 Utah Jazz
Dante Exum PG
18 years old; 6'6"; 188 lbs.
Australian Institute of Sport, International

While Exum will want to get drafted by a team that will let him play his natural position of point guard, a backcourt of him and Trey Burke (a Top-10 pick last year) could absolutely work together depending on the coach Utah decides to hire. Most teams have seen very little of Exum over the years, but Utah's scouting department, headed by Nike Hoop Summit World Team architect Rich Sheubrooks, doesn't have that problem. Julius Randle can't be ruled out here, as playing him together with Derrick Favors could work and may be one way to help shore up what was the NBA's worst defense last season.


23 Utah Jazz (From Golden State Warriors)
Kristaps Porzingis PF/C
18 years old; 7'0"; 220 lbs.
Sevilla, International

With their second first rounder, Utah can afford to swing for the fences a bit on a talented physical specimen with upside like Porzingis who needs a few years of seasoning (and work in the weight room) to be ready to play in the NBA.

From DraftExpress.com https://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz318viwoBe
https://www.draftexpress.com
 
orangello said:
Has anyone else noticed that

Dante Exum and
Dental Exam

look similar? I thought it was interesting.

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Unfortunately, I'm afraid watching Dante Exum try to play in the NBA might be very similar to undergoing a dental exam.

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Did anyone else notice that DX has the Spurs draft LaVine? That sounds like a great pick for them. They can develop him slowly and he could turn out to be great with their system.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Brehs if u see any articles on Noah Vonleh from 2010-2012, you will read about a 6'7" point forward that brings the ball up the court vs a press

His handle is advanced for a player of his size/age, as ive posted before his HS coach said hed pay the price of admission just to watch him work dribbling drills

“Wait ‘til the NBA guys get a real good look at him. Imagine him, running through those ball-handling drills for them. They’re going to be stunned.”

I dont care to make excuses for him as his body of work speaks for itself, but to kill him over aggressiveness is a bit of a headscratcher to me when his role was setting screens and rebounding (not creating offense), he had 7 games of 10FGA's or more, thats it.

when considering Noah in the NBA i think what has to have the most appeal is his potential to be one of the premier P+R and Pick and Pop guys, which i dont think would qualify him as a "#1 option" but itd be close, was Chris Bosh in Toronto a #1 guy? I think in the NBA you need an inside and outside scoring punch to be viable, Noah could definitely fill one of those rolls
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So you think Vonleh would have performed better in a different situation?
 
BTP said:
He can create the shot, but doesn't make it until he fixes it :P
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When creating a shot, you don't always have to create a jump shot... there's this thing called getting to the rim. And Smart shot 57% around the rim in half court sets. He finishes through contact (had 19 and 1's his sophomore season... I doubt there was a guard in all of college basketball with more).
 
So what is everyone's position concerning Damien Inglis w/ our second rounder?

Despite being one of the youngest players in the draft, Inglis might be one of the most ready to step on a NBA floor from a physical standpoint. He measured 6-8 ½ in shoes at the Nike Hoop Summit, with an outstanding 7-3 wingspan and 240 pound frame, figures that put him in a class of his own in terms of non-big men prospects historically according to our unique measurement database. He also has huge hands on top of that.

Inglis is a unique prospect in terms of the versatility he displays, but his best attribute from a NBA standpoint likely revolves around his defensive potential. He's got great instincts and fundamentals to compliment his outstanding size, length and strength, making him capable of guarding up to three positions (2-3-4) at the NBA level. He's just as big as many power forwards, but is capable of getting in a stance and keeping opponents in front. He's very aware and attentive both on and off the ball, showing very good feet and lateral quickness, which makes him a real playmaker in the passing lanes (1.6 steals per-40 pace adjusted) and occasionally even as a shot-blocker. Inglis ranked as the second best rebounding small forward in the entire French league despite his youth, hauling down 9.5 boards per-40, something he's done in every setting he's played, which makes it likely to translate to the NBA level as well in some capacity.

Inglis' ball-handling in the open floor, passing ability and basketball IQ are likely his biggest selling points offensively. He's operated as somewhat of a point forward growing up, racking up assists at a very high rate in turn, even if he didn't get much of an opportunity to show that at the pro level this season. His strong frame allows him to bulldoze his way into the lane and make plays for teammates, as he's extremely unselfish and has a knack for finding the open man, showing the ability to make plays with either hand.

With that said, there are some question marks about the role Inglis will play in the NBA offensively, at least in the short term. While he's incredibly powerful, he's not what you'd describe as a freakish athlete in terms of his sheer quickness or explosiveness, which can get him into trouble at times when he puts the ball on the floor and attacks the paint in the half-court. Inglis turned the ball over on 24% of his possessions this season, the fourth highest rate of any of the players in our Top-100 rankings. He still has work to do on polishing his ball-handling against set defenses, improving his experience-level, and making good decisions.

Inglis shot 39% for 3 in France this year, and appears to have solid mechanics, but really struggled to make jumpers all week long at the Nike Hoop Summit practices, scrimmages and game. His release is fairly slow, and his touch leaves something to be desired, which is an issue in today's NBA which revolves so heavily around perimeter spacing. Inglis' ability to become a legitimate threat with his feet set from NBA range is likely the biggest key to him becoming a valuable contributor.

On the plus side, Inglis is the sixth youngest player in our Top-100 right now, not turning 19 for another few weeks. It's safe to say he has plenty of room to grow still, and looks like someone who will reach his potential based on what we know about his character and work ethic. Inglis left his home country of French Guiana (a small country just north of Brazil) when he was only 13 years old, and is clearly very mature for his age. Unlike some international prospects, he speaks very good English and there are no question marks about his desire to play in the NBA. He also has a comfortable buyout and the flexibility to either come over right away or stay for another year in Europe if need be. All those things combined leave a lot of room for optimism regarding his situation and should help him if he decides to keep his name in the draft.

We've taken a more visual look at Inglis' strengths and weaknesses thanks to game film from France and the Nike Hoop Summit in the following video scouting report, courtesy of Mike Schmitz.

From DraftExpress.com https://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz319JKOasz
https://www.draftexpress.com
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There is a video on his Draftexpress page as well, but I can't share YouTube flicks from the iPad, though.


Personally, I'm all for this. He has the measurements in spades, good BBIQ, defensive instincts, is super young etc. If you're looking for a possible second round steal, I'm not sure you can ask for much more. My gut tells me that he'll gather more interest after combine.


I love how deep this draft is. I think the top guys are a tad overrated, but definitely worthy of projected position, but the awesomeness is in the possible value steals.
 
spycam1 said:
So you think Vonleh would have performed better in a different situation?
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his performance was pretty damn good, the rebounding #'s he put up were really solid and hes worked himself into phenomenal shape at IU. However he would have been able to show more versatility on a team that had other rebounders, the biggest players on the court with him were 6'6 wing players

he could have had more opportunities for plays like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5RFyUtl2o0
 
I dont think Inglis will be at the combine he wasn't on the unofficial dx list of invites

but im all for him at 35, the defense displayed in this video is sorely lacking on the jazz, i like the way he uses his strength for a youngster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGiSN4HBkQk&list=UURUErR61S_Fl8AFMdRtJ6kw
 
Sexual Favors said:
So what is everyone's position concerning Damien Inglis w/ our second rounder?



There is a video on his Draftexpress page as well, but I can't share YouTube flicks from the iPad, though.


Personally, I'm all for this. He has the measurements in spades, good BBIQ, defensive instincts, is super young etc. If you're looking for a possible second round steal, I'm not sure you can ask for much more. My gut tells me that he'll gather more interest after combine.


I love how deep this draft is. I think the top guys are a tad overrated, but definitely worthy of projected position, but the awesomeness is in the possible value steals.
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PointGod_AlecBurks said:
I dont think Inglis will be at the combine he wasn't on the unofficial dx list of invites

but im all for him at 35, the defense displayed in this video is sorely lacking on the jazz, i like the way he uses his strength for a youngster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGiSN4HBkQk&list=UURUErR61S_Fl8AFMdRtJ6kw
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Like I said, I'd love a draft day line up of Exum, Porzingis and Inglis.

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