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my post combine top 25 is

1 Wiggins
2 Embiid
3 Parker
4 Vonleh
5 Exum
6 Randle
7 Saric
8 Ennis
9 McDermott
10 LaVine
11 Smart
12 Gordon
13 Nurkic
14 Warren
15 Hood
16 Stauskas
17 Young
18 Harris
19 Payne
20 Porzingis
21 Hairston
22 Anderson
23 McDaniels
24 Bogdanovic
25 Tavares
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
my post combine top 25 is

1 Wiggins
2 Embiid
3 Parker
4 Vonleh
5 Exum
6 Randle
7 Saric
8 Ennis
9 McDermott
10 LaVine
11 Smart
12 Gordon
13 Nurkic
14 Warren
15 Hood
16 Stauskas
17 Young
18 Harris
19 Payne
20 Porzingis
21 Hairston
22 Anderson
23 McDaniels
24 Bogdanovic
25 Tavares
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Seems like Gordon and Smart really dropped (unless they weren't rated that high to begin with).
I like the prospects in the 19-25 range. Utah could get a very good player that deep. It certainly would make up for losing the Barnes' pick to GS.
 
fishonjazz said:
How the **** did he do that?

Everyone must be shocked by that
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I have a feeling that when McBuckets is having a Chandler Parsons like career, folks are going to be kicking themselves for passing on him because of his skin color.

Let's face it, the kid can flat out ball. If he weren't white, he'd easily be a top 10... Top 8 draft pick.

He won't be Lebron James. But I'm guessing that he will have a long and productive NBA career. While other highly touted flashy prospects have flamed out.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
I wonder how much Parker gets credit for work ethic because he is a high character guy. How much is really due to his actual work ethic. If he were such a workout warrior, would he look so flabby and undefined during the season? Would there ever be whispers like above saying he might be overweight? Don't guys with great work ethic look like Karl Malone, Lebron, Kobe, MJ?

I guess I'm just not convinced Parker's work ethic is anything to write home about. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if his work ethic were a little below average.

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The perception has more to do about his religion IMO. There is a perception outside of Utah that Mormons may be weird but they are hardworking and honest. Just saying.
 
From Ford/Pelton Chat
Khem Birch's WARP projection (1.5, 15th) ranks him as a borderline lottery pick, but he's also a likely second-rounder (No. 56 on the Big Board). Can guys like Adams and Birch do anything at the combine to boost their stock?
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Telling ya, don't sleep on Khem. I actually really like Adams as well. Saw him a lot in AAU tourneys and always lit it up.
 
Re: the three players who skipped the combine.

Wiggins - as the consensus #1, had nothing to gain by going

Parker - who knows if he's put on 15-20 pounds. Whether he has or hasn't, the combine simply isn't where he shines. He's have a slow sprint, a slow lane agility, probably a less than impressive vertical, body fat wouldn't look good. Dude is a lock for top 4, probably near lock for #2. The combine isn't his cup o' tea.

Embiid - he's the one I worry about. If he's healthy, goes to the combine, comes in at a legit 7' or 7'1", long wingspan, jumps and runs well and proves he's in great health, he might have a shot at stealing Wiggin's #1 slot. My gut has always been, and with him missing the combine, I feel even more strongly that dude isn't healthy. I love Embiid's size, athleticism, toughness, demeanor - everything. But I don't what anything to do with an injured big man.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
my post combine top 25 is

1 Wiggins
2 Embiid
3 Parker
4 Vonleh
5 Exum
6 Randle
7 Saric
8 Ennis
9 McDermott
10 LaVine
11 Smart
12 Gordon
13 Nurkic
14 Warren
15 Hood
16 Stauskas
17 Young
18 Harris
19 Payne
20 Porzingis
21 Hairston
22 Anderson
23 McDaniels
24 Bogdanovic
25 Tavares
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If Smart and/or Gordon drop that low, the Jazz better have a trade in place. Or two.
 
Core4 said:
Seems like Gordon and Smart really dropped (unless they weren't rated that high to begin with).
I like the prospects in the 19-25 range. Utah could get a very good player that deep. It certainly would make up for losing the Barnes' pick to GS.
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I had Smart and Gordon in the top 8, Smarts measurements I think reveal a bit why he came back, maybe he was hoping he grew an inch. the possibility that Trey and Smart could be a viable backcourt vanished when he measured 6'2" in socks. with a 6'7¼" wingspan and 36" vertical Ennis had a stronger than expected combine, im much more comfortable moving him ahead of Smart.

Gordon's measurements put him squarely in the Harrison Barnes category, but his drop in those rankings is more about the rise of Mcbuckets, Ennis and LaVine. his jump #'s were underwhelming though, 32½" no-step jump is fairly pedestrian, a half an inch more than Dante Exum, whos jump has been highly criticized

by all accounts LaVine killed it at the combine; ontop of measuring almost 6'6" in shoes, with a 6'8¼" wingspan he shot well and was jumping, this high, in drills

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Lavine reminds me a bit of MCW last year but without the maturity-game management ability (yet).



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PointGod_AlecBurks said:
I had Smart and Gordon in the top 8, Smarts measurements I think reveal a bit why he came back, maybe he was hoping he grew an inch. the possibility that Trey and Smart could be a viable backcourt vanished when he measured 6'2" in socks. with a 6'7¼" wingspan and 36" vertical Ennis had a stronger than expected combine, im much more comfortable moving him ahead of Smart.

Gordon's measurements put him squarely in the Harrison Barnes category, but his drop in those rankings is more about the rise of Mcbuckets, Ennis and LaVine. his jump #'s were underwhelming though, 32½" no-step jump is fairly pedestrian, a half an inch more than Dante Exum, whos jump has been highly criticized

by all accounts LaVine killed it at the combine; ontop of measuring almost 6'6" in shoes, with a 6'8¼" wingspan he shot well and was jumping, this high, in drills

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Slightly disappointing vertical from Lavine. There were whispers of a 48" max, and like you said not a great standing vertical. He did tally, by far, the best agility score, was top 10 in sprint, and was close to 6'6" in shoes, Id say that made up for it.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
Re: the three players who skipped the combine.

Wiggins - as the consensus #1, had nothing to gain by going

Parker - who knows if he's put on 15-20 pounds. Whether he has or hasn't, the combine simply isn't where he shines. He's have a slow sprint, a slow lane agility, probably a less than impressive vertical, body fat wouldn't look good. Dude is a lock for top 4, probably near lock for #2. The combine isn't his cup o' tea.

Embiid - he's the one I worry about. If he's healthy, goes to the combine, comes in at a legit 7' or 7'1", long wingspan, jumps and runs well and proves he's in great health, he might have a shot at stealing Wiggin's #1 slot. My gut has always been, and with him missing the combine, I feel even more strongly that dude isn't healthy. I love Embiid's size, athleticism, toughness, demeanor - everything. But I don't what anything to do with an injured big man.
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Im pretty scared of embiid right now too.

I heard that his agents are trying to manipulate what team he goes to and are only allowing certain team doctors to check him out
 
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