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draftexpress is the best. They do a ton of work.
 
Hantlers said:
Huh? Spy said jumpers. Layups and dunks aren't jumpers. But yes, from what I've seen, he's pretty good at finishing.
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Winslow's finishing at the rim noticeably better than Johnson in the half court, and they're basically the same in transition.

QuinSnydersHair said:
I don't know how accurate this is (spy???) and it's off of nbadarft.net so take it fwiw but here's how it opens in describing Johnson.

"Strengths: The first two things that jump out are his incredible football player like body and his competitiveness ... He's a standout with his on ball defense where he is able to use his huge chest to muscle any offensive threat ... But compared to Ron Artest, he looks like a much better defender off the ball, using his large wingspan to deflect passes and his big hands to snatch the ball away from opposing players ... Defensively, he's absolutely a beast, who could immediate play in the NBA creating problems for many NBA wings ... Perhaps another of his best characteristics, really rare in a 18 year old is how he plays to his strengths, never takes a bad shots, never tries to show off, instead takes what the game gives him."

Sign me up. This is what this team needs. I think it would make Gobert even more passionate and Favors some as well.
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nbadraft.net is pretty crappy, but I do like the Ron Artest comparison (it's been brought up in this thread before).

QuinSnydersHair said:
Just watched mixtape on Winslow. He looks like more of the stud/superstar to me.
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To be a star wing you have to be able to score. He has zero mid range game. He's just not a scorer. He could be a great glue guy, though.

Hantlers said:
I agree with the first half. Winslow has always been known as the guy who's willing to do the dirty stuff to win...defending the best player, rebounding, not taking a primary scoring role. He's at best, the 3rd or 4th option for Duke...a prima donna doesn't take that role.

Honestly, either Johnson or Winslow would leave me ecstatic. I prefer Winslow because I think he has a better chance at developing into a primary offensive player, but either one is a win.
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Again, I disagree. So far he's shown he can finish at the rim, his spot up 3's, and make the right pass. Johnson's offensive repertoire is much advanced, IMO.

In Winslow's pre-season scouting report DX compares his offensive game to an undersized 4, and because of his lack of scoring ability, they question his upside in the NBA (to quote them: "Can he be more than just an defensive specialist/hustle guy?"

ONE LOVE said:
The ball apparently also stops when he's on the floor.. dunno if he's ideal for our group. I think Winslow's a better bet ... he's also from DUKE. This from Chad Ford.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6vGeHHyqrk

I'm not sure what to make of Ford's comments about his defensive effort. It's obviously not impossible that he's slacked off at times, but he's generally known for his defense. Just watch the beginning of this video. He single handedly forces back to back turnovers off of inbounds plays, then later plays the passing lanes, then blocks a shot...

As far as the ball stopping, well, he's averaging 1.7 assists which isn't bad. And he seems to have good passing ability. He's obviously capable, and under Quin, I wouldn't worry too much (although, Winslow does look better in this department as he's got the better A/TO ratio).
 
Get wuggins. Dat Maple Jordan
 
I would take Johnson over anyone but the top 3. he has the alpha dog mentality and the jazz desperately need that.

exum
Hayward
Johnson
favors
Gobert

is an awesome defensive team. I also think there is enough firepower on that squad

now trade hood for another pick and get booker mission accomplished.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
I would take Johnson over anyone but the top 3. he has the alpha dog mentality and the jazz desperately need that.

exum
Hayward
Johnson
favors
Gobert

is an awesome defensive team. I also think there is enough firepower on that squad

now trade hood for another pick and get booker mission accomplished.
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Biggest team in the league right there.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
I don't know how accurate this is (spy???) and it's off of nbadarft.net so take it fwiw but here's how it opens in describing Johnson.

"Strengths: The first two things that jump out are his incredible football player like body and his competitiveness ... He's a standout with his on ball defense where he is able to use his huge chest to muscle any offensive threat ... But compared to Ron Artest, he looks like a much better defender off the ball, using his large wingspan to deflect passes and his big hands to snatch the ball away from opposing players ... Defensively, he's absolutely a beast, who could immediate play in the NBA creating problems for many NBA wings ... Perhaps another of his best characteristics, really rare in a 18 year old is how he plays to his strengths, never takes a bad shots, never tries to show off, instead takes what the game gives him."

Sign me up. This is what this team needs. I think it would make Gobert even more passionate and Favors some as well.
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QuinSnydersHair said:
Just watched mixtape on Winslow. He looks like more of the stud/superstar to me.
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QuinSnydersHair said:
Hezonja very impressive too.

I would be very, very happy with any of those three wings. Something about Winslow reeks of pretty-boy prima donna. I'm probably way off here but he just has that look to me.
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Please make up your mind.
 
spycam1 said:
**** dat dude

Son of John has like 30lbs on him.
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Tractor Traylor has 100lbs on both of them. He's sitting somewhere laughing will eating icecream...




...filled with meat!

And then Dirk Nowitzki is laughing somewhere, because the Bucks wanted Traylor over him.

spycam1 said:
To be a star wing you have to be able to score. He has zero mid range game. He's just not a scorer. He could be a great glue guy, though.
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We don't need a star wing. We already have one.

https://grantland.com/the-triangle/al-horford-atlanta-hawks-superstar/

Scroll down to the bottom.

Hayward doesn’t have blow-by speed, but his herky-jerky drives going both left and right get defenders just off-balance enough for Hayward to get a clean look.
Hayward has hit a sizzling 37-of-70 on isolation plays, per Synergy Sports. That’s one of the best marks in the league, and Hayward has managed it without coughing the ball up much. Utah’s offense has died with Hayward on the bench all season, but at least the Jazz can go forward knowing they have one nice wing centerpiece.
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Does D'Angelo's quick release remind anyone else of Steph Curry's shot?


He also seems to have a similar scorer's mentality coming out of college as well as an underrated passing vision.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7ai5CHnJko
 
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