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NCJazz said:
We also will need that 3rd big man as well so I would not count out a big man at this point. Turner has a lot of talent and upside and Kaminsky could be a better Okur potentially.
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Looney could be a good stretch four, play some 3. I think we go Booker tho. Lindsey is of Spurs ilk and booker fits the Bellineli, Gary Neal, Danny Green profile.
 
NCJazz said:
We also will need that 3rd big man as well so I would not count out a big man at this point. Turner has a lot of talent and upside and Kaminsky could be a better Okur potentially.
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If you are drafting a 3rd big, you want someone who can play next to Favors or Gobert. Can Turner or Kaminksy play next to Gobert?
 
Since the Tank is off... What if we got Frank the Tank. He would contrast our current bigs well. When I watch him I'm always impressed.

If we have Burks back and healthy next year I just don't think a rookie will get any PT unless it Stanley Johnson or Hezonja. Hopefully one of the Euros says they are staying over there another year and their draft stock falls. When fully healthy we have Hayward/Burks/Hood/Exum that will play minutes at the 2/3. I think we bring back Joe and Millsap as good end of the bench injury replacement guys.

I think the only time a rookie will get PT is at backup center. I initially really like Turner when he was shooting well, but he has fallen off. It would be great to have a guy who provides rim protection and shooting... would be a tough choice between Frank the Tank (great nickname) and Turner.
 
Cy said:
If you are drafting a 3rd big, you want someone who can play next to Favors or Gobert. Can Turner or Kaminksy play next to Gobert?
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Both could play next to Favs... not sure how it would work with Gobert. I think it could work with Gobert on a really limited basis.
 
Cy said:
If you are drafting a 3rd big, you want someone who can play next to Favors or Gobert. Can Turner or Kaminksy play next to Gobert?
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Have not really seen Turner enough to say, but I definitely believe Kaminsky could. If Gobert can improve his post game and you have Kaminsky out there to shoot 3s that would be pretty hard to defend. On defensive end Kaminsky could play the 4. He does need to hit the weights this offseason though.
 
I also think Book is the 3rd big... we'd be drafting the 4th big.
 
We have a lot of options right now... I think if none of the good wings are there (I'm not a Winslow fan) then I might go center. We dont need to rely on someone at that position and can take our time with development with regular rotation minutes.
 
I think we just need to move up and make someone a godfather offer in the top 4 or 5, so we can get one of Russell, Johnson, Hezonja or if they all go I'd give Porzingis a look. I don't care much for Oubre, Winslow although could probably talk myself into them. If Burke keeps playing well it will increase his value, so he'd be a good potential trade chip.

If we go after a FA wing we are going to have a logjam, but injuries and such tend to happen. When healthy we don't have many glaring needs other than PG play and hopefully Exum is the answer there long-term.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Since the Tank is off... What if we got Frank the Tank. He would contrast our current bigs well. When I watch him I'm always impressed.

If we have Burks back and healthy next year I just don't think a rookie will get any PT unless it Stanley Johnson or Hezonja. Hopefully one of the Euros says they are staying over there another year and their draft stock falls. When fully healthy we have Hayward/Burks/Hood/Exum that will play minutes at the 2/3. I think we bring back Joe and Millsap as good end of the bench injury replacement guys.

I think the only time a rookie will get PT is at backup center. I initially really like Turner when he was shooting well, but he has fallen off. It would be great to have a guy who provides rim protection and shooting... would be a tough choice between Frank the Tank (great nickname) and Turner.
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Hmm.. this is a good point. We have Burks back and if Hood stays healthy and Ingles is making progress it would be pretty crowded backcourt.


May be this is the reason why DL had repeatedly said in interviews that we could be trading away the pick during draft time for a legit vet/star player?


Imagine if we bring back Book as our 3rd big (he's filling that role well), bring Pleiss/Tomic (they should be fine as 4th big), Burks comes off the bench as the 6th man with Hood backing up Hayward, then we have a vacant space in the starting Lineup for a legit vet/star at the SG/SF position? Our team seems ready to explode next year, getting a vet/star player may be better than grabbing another raw young player to develop?
 
Other than being nearly 10 years older, what do you guys see Justise Winslow bringing to the table that Millsap doesn't already? They have similar height, both are commited physical defenders and iffy shooters/offensive weapons, Millsap is dirt cheap at $1m+ for the next 3 years?


This is another reason why I think if we're drafting in the 10-14 range we might be trading that pick....
 
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Devin Booker makes more sense then anyone else in our range unless Johnson or Hezonja slip. as was said before

PG - Exum future and burke lighting up the second team and hoping he accepts that role. Dante is still a huge question mark but I want to see what he does this summer and brings to the table next year. (3rd PG needed)

SG - Hayward thrives here but he can also do well as the SF. Burks is a huge wildcard because of the injury but if he comes back and shoots better he could be starting or be 6th man but that seems to be Burke. Not sold opn hood seems injury prone and is hot and cold from outside. I like Millsap the perfect end of the bench player.

SF - With Hayward here we are good also Ingles is OK but not great. Hood see above the one this the wings needs is a DEAD EYE SHOOTER none of them are that.

PF - Favors is very good hoping he will get better. I like booker as the back up he is a good inforcer.

C - Gobert is the future and present be he is still very young and could find some fouls early. This position really depnds on what Pleiss and or Tomic do. If the Jazz feel they can bring either of them over then I dont see a reason to bring in another. No reason to draft a 3rd big in the lottery unless you see a good prospect.

With that said the places i see needed the most are

1st - Dead eye shooter - Booker is the best at this and could see him making a lot of players better just with his floor spacing. You could also trade down and get Justin Anderson.
2nd - a solid bench player - some one that can play multiple positions. Looney would be a good fit to fill in at the 3 and the 4. but with booker I dont see it
3rd - defensive specialist - I see millsap and Booker being good here but Anderson would also make sense

To be honest the one biggest glaring need for the Jazz is a floor spacer and DEVIN BOOKER is that guy. No reason to trade away the pick when BOOKER is what we need
 
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Looney is also shooting it at 40.5% from 3's and he seems to have a higher upside also with the length and the potential to play SF alongside Hayward in a starting role... defensively with his long arms it could be really disruptive in defense.. Booker's measurements aren't that great defensively (he reportedly has the worst height to wingspan ratio of 6'6.25:6'6.25 at the Kentucky combine).


If Looney can consistently stroke it from 3's, I'm leaning his way due to his defensive potential.
 
I don't know muh about Looney yet, but what I have seen so far leaves me doubtful that he can stay in front of good wings.
 
BTP said:
I don't know muh about Looney yet, but what I have seen so far leaves me doubtful that he can stay in front of good wings.
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It's so frustrating that he's been playing PF for UCLA, ... I think he is too weak to guard against physical PF in the post in the NBA. He also doesn't seem to play with much fire or urgency, but he does bring some pretty unique set of skills to the table that the Jazz may like (3pt shooting, passing, patience, not drive happy).


May be our scouts can see him in action against other SFs when we bring him in for workouts.
 
ONE LOVE said:
It's so frustrating that he's been playing PF for UCLA, ... I think he is too weak to guard against physical PF in the post in the NBA. He also doesn't seem to play with much fire or urgency, but he does bring some pretty unique set of skills to the table that the Jazz may like (3pt shooting, passing, patience, not drive happy).


May be our scouts can see him in action against other SFs when we bring him in for workouts.
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Forgive me my suspiciousness, but if you advocate someone as a wing player in the NBA who I feel lacks mobility to guard NCAA wings then that's something that I don't take all that serious.
 
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