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Following potential 2015 draftees

Crocodile Dante said:
here is a stat to look at when it comes to the draft. the 2 best teams in the nba are Atlanta and golden state. I think most would agree. both teams are also the 2 best teams in 3 pt field goals bot at about 40%. the jazz need shooting. hezonja I think is the best fit but booker is next.
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I agree we need shooting, but I'd like to see how the playoffs play out before declaring the best teams in the league. I think our model is the grizz. They might be the team best suited for the playoffs. Obviously they'd be better if they had some more shooting to go with that D.
 
If we're picking #12 - #14, then I'd look really hard at Jerian Grant.. this guy has potential to be a very good combo guard. Good length & decent athleticism, has a nice handle as he's the primary ball handler, likes to pass (6.6 assists). I think he's somebody you can groom (ala Hayward & Burks, into a pretty nice ball handler/distributor/attacker for the future.

#GrabAndGroom


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F_pPyQ4mT8
 
Jerian Grant is legit. He's a true point at 6'5", great passer and playmaker who can also defend the two with his size. Add to that he's an explosive athlete and it's kind of surprising he's not consensus top 10.
 
Stanley Johnson has hit just 4 of his last 16 3-pt. attempts, he shot just 3/19 in the Utah game and 1/9 against UCLA. Considering he's bigger and stronger than the competition, I have concerns about his real offensive output in the pros, when he'll be going up against people his size/length. Bad days happen for sure, but 3/19 is like MCW bad. Johsnon is shooting under 33% in his last 5 games combined.

I'm just saying, if he's anywhere near this streaky a shooter in the pros he might be a lot like James Johnson. There's some risk here.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
Jerian Grant is legit. He's a true point at 6'5", great passer and playmaker who can also defend the two with his size. Add to that he's an explosive athlete and it's kind of surprising he's not consensus top 10.
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I think his age & shooting is probably the biggest knock, kinda like MCW? I do agree that he has great potential as a playmaker in the Jazz offense kinda like the way we're currently using Ingles (and more recently Hood) to initiate the offense.

.... and then there's this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUcFNy_s-Gw
 
ONE LOVE said:
I think his age & shooting is probably the biggest knock, kinda like MCW? I do agree that he has great potential as a playmaker in the Jazz offense kinda like the way we're currently using Ingles (and more recently Hood) to initiate the offense.

.... and then there's this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUcFNy_s-Gw
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Age, maybe. But Grant can shoot. 50% FGs, and he is a career 35% 3pt shooter 80% FTs. Not great, but his shot isn't broken. By comparison, MCW was at 39% FGs, 29% 3pt, 69% FT. Completely different shooting numbers.
 
Dr. Jones said:
The key portion of this post being, "at the moment."
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Well I would have loved it if Booker's in the starting lineup and can show me a bit more of what he's got. To me he's a bit riskier a pick than Grant just because we're relying on a lot on his shooting to translate at the NBA level..

Jimmer & Stauskus haven't panned out so I am a bit more cautious. Curry to me was a safer pick because he played the PG his final year in college so if his shooting hadn't panned out he's got that to fall back on.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Well I would have loved it if Booker's in the starting lineup and can show me a bit more of what he's got. To me he's a bit riskier a pick than Grant just because we're relying on a lot on his shooting to translate at the NBA level..

Jimmer & Stauskus haven't panned out so I am a bit more cautious. Curry to me was a safer pick because he played the PG his final year in college so if his shooting hadn't panned out he's got that to fall back on.
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I ain't pimpn just sayn the reasoning in this thread has gone way down hill and that was quite a feat.
But Jerian is almost FOUR years older than Booker, is shooting 10% less from 3, and Booker leads almost EVERY single CAT per 36.
 
Dr. Jones said:
I ain't pimpn just sayn the reasoning in this thread has gone way down hill and that was quite a feat.
But Jerian is almost FOUR years older than Booker, is shooting 10% less from 3, and Booker leads almost EVERY single CAT per 36.
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Booker, Lyles, and Towns are all undervalued imo... all would be putting up more numbers if they were playing on teams that featured them. Kudos for them for buying in to the team, and people can say what they want about Cal... he has young men buying into the team concept rather than self.

If it was Booker vs. Grant... no way I am picking Grant. We already have a lanky point guard.
 
Dr. Jones said:
I ain't pimpn just sayn the reasoning in this thread has gone way down hill and that was quite a feat.
But Jerian is almost FOUR years older than Booker, is shooting 10% less from 3, and Booker leads almost EVERY single CAT per 36.
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Yeah so I did say his age and shooting was a concern.


However to your other point, Per 40 according to DX, Grant leads Booker in Assists (6.8 vs 2), FTM (4.2 vs 2.6), steals (1.8 vs 0.8), FG% (49.4% vs 47.7%). Rebounds was even at around 3.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Well I would have loved it if Booker's in the starting lineup and can show me a bit more of what he's got. To me he's a bit riskier a pick than Grant just because we're relying on a lot on his shooting to translate at the NBA level..

Jimmer & Stauskus haven't panned out so I am a bit more cautious. Curry to me was a safer pick because he played the PG his final year in college so if his shooting hadn't panned out he's got that to fall back on.
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bad comparison jimmer is shooting 40% from 3 he just sucks at defense and actually playing PG i would take booker on this team over grant 9/10 times
 
Dr. Jones said:
I ain't pimpn just sayn the reasoning in this thread has gone way down hill and that was quite a feat.
But Jerian is almost FOUR years older than Booker, is shooting 10% less from 3, and Booker leads almost EVERY single CAT per 36.
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Booker isn't being asked to shoulder the offense or anything, should be getting a TON of wide open looks from the guys he plays with and also probably isn't getting the other teams best defender every game. His %'s should be a lot higher than Grants.
 
Stauskas is also on a team that is a poor fit for him. He's not been good, but give him time... I'd pick him up on the cheap if possible. He might still be good.
 
jazz need shooting and Booker is one of the best in this draft. With him on the 3 point line it will open up lanes for Burks, Burke and hayward. Exum's first step will become deadly, if he will develope it.

Favors and Gobert will have an easy kick out and teams will have a harder time doubling of Booker in the post.
 
Doublea said:
If we draft Grant, what happens to Burke?
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I don't think Grant will play the Point in the NBA. I think he'll be a combo guard, someone who can handle the ball, make the right passes, and score occasionally as well. I think he could be a less athletic, but a better passer version of Burks.
 
Beer said:
Booker isn't being asked to shoulder the offense or anything, should be getting a TON of wide open looks from the guys he plays with and also probably isn't getting the other teams best defender every game. His %'s should be a lot higher than Grants.
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actually i disagree as i posted earlier the way to stop their ability to shoot and pack the lane. I would put your best wing defender on booker when he comes into the game. Dare the twins to jack up 3 while doubling the post every time.
 
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