That 14.3% from 3pt range screams Stretch 4.
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That 14.3% from 3pt range screams Stretch 4.
He has a great midrange shot and I would bet he will be 30+ from 3 for his career.
Chargers Jazz Angels
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he has a chance to be decent with his shooting form but yes deadly from midrange. cy is just a hater
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The Jazz are going to want another forward who can really score the ball. I know Favors put up big numbers tonight, but we need a dynamic scorer in the frontcourt.
Some more Oubre...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C92IYcYArUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C92IYcYArUc
I think here is a guy who after 2-3 years in the league people could be calling him a bargain if he's picked around #12. He's got the length, he's got the stroke and what seems like an already NBA ready body. We've gotta grab him if he's there at #12.
So 19 and 8 is one of his worst games? Good to know...
karl malone
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Due to the fact that, before the season had even started, it was pretty much a foregone conclusion that we would be drafting in the lottery (although I certainly expected to be closer to the 5th spot than to the 10th), I have only really been paying close attention to the top 10-15 prospects. Because the team has progressed as quickly as it has & is as flush in both quality & quantity when it comes to young talent as it is, I think the FO will have a short shortlist (not a typo) when it comes to prospects it will be willing to use a valuable asset (whichever lottery position we wind up at) on. I would imagine it is broken down into tiers (prospects they are willing to package the pick along with other significant assets to draft- i.e: trade into the top 5/prospects they are willing to package the pick along with another asset or 2 to draft- i.e: trade into the top 10/prospects they are willing to draft with the pick).
If I were to guess, I'd say (significance of assets willing to be packaged vary by player)
Trade into the top 5 to draft: Towns/Russell
Trade into the top 10 to draft: Mudiay/Okafor/Hezonja
Stand pat (or move up a spot or 2 without giving up any significant assets): Johnson/WCS/Porzingis
Winslow/Oubre/Looney/Booker/Turner/Kaminsky (+ whoever I likely forgot) could all be possibilities here but I really believe the team is looking for a player who either a) has the potential to become a superstar or b) has the skills to step in & immediately contribute significant minutes to a contending team from day 1. All of the players that I just listed definitely have serious potential but could all take several years before reaching it (a few of them may be ready to contribute immediately, but not in areas we need (this could change depending on certain personnel decisions)- other than D.Booker, tho if they did draft him they, would certainly have to believe he's more than just a 3pt specialist) , if they are able to do so at all. Unless there is a reasonable deal to be made to move up or someone they covet, slips to their draft range (or at least close enough- like Trey did in 2013), I think this FO will look to trade down, acquire an extra asset or 2 (in order to continue stockpiling for a larger deal down the road), & take a shot at drafting an under-the-radar prospect & hope they hit on that scratch ticket & end up with another Rudy Gobert.
So, my question is: who are the raw, physically gifted, lesser known prospects, projected towards the end of the 1st round, who could end up being this year's steal of the draft?
If I were to guess, I'd say (significance of assets willing to be packaged vary by player)
Trade into the top 5 to draft: Towns/Russell
Trade into the top 10 to draft: Mudiay/Okafor/Hezonja
Stand pat (or move up a spot or 2 without giving up any significant assets): Johnson/WCS/Porzingis
Winslow/Oubre/Looney/Booker/Turner/Kaminsky (+ whoever I likely forgot) could all be possibilities here but I really believe the team is looking for a player who either a) has the potential to become a superstar or b) has the skills to step in & immediately contribute significant minutes to a contending team from day 1. All of the players that I just listed definitely have serious potential but could all take several years before reaching it (a few of them may be ready to contribute immediately, but not in areas we need (this could change depending on certain personnel decisions)- other than D.Booker, tho if they did draft him they, would certainly have to believe he's more than just a 3pt specialist) , if they are able to do so at all. Unless there is a reasonable deal to be made to move up or someone they covet, slips to their draft range (or at least close enough- like Trey did in 2013), I think this FO will look to trade down, acquire an extra asset or 2 (in order to continue stockpiling for a larger deal down the road), & take a shot at drafting an under-the-radar prospect & hope they hit on that scratch ticket & end up with another Rudy Gobert.
So, my question is: who are the raw, physically gifted, lesser known prospects, projected towards the end of the 1st round, who could end up being this year's steal of the draft?
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Well, I am exaggerating and being facetious a bit because he's been balling lately and posting 20+pts games on very efficient shooting, but shooting wise it seems like it wasn't very good. I didn't have a stream to watch but followed the play by play. He started the game 1/9 or something of the sort and had 4pts at halftime, at least he finished strong.
He seems to be an extremely confident scorer and shooter who doesn't care if his shot isn't falling, if he has a good shot he'd take it.
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I honestly don't know who the Jazz would trade down to draft. I think Kris Dunn and Jerian Grant could be reasonable. I don't think the front office is sold on Trey Burke and would be willing to replace him with a bigger, more athletic guard.
If they're at the end of the lottery, I think they're looking for bigs with offense. Whoever looks like a stretch-4 would be in serious consideration. Portis seems kind of obvious. I don't see how the Jazz are motivated to move down. They're holding a bunch of picks already.
I don't think the Jazz are going to make a big enough effort to trade up for Towns, Okafor or Russell. That would require moving Rudy or Favors probably.
I like how you think. You are a GREAT thinker. Very articulate, very calculated.
I have thought too that we could trade down or even out of this year's draft. We have so many rookies/second year players we can develop this year, and most spots are filled. Why not trade out/down and pick up a future 1st?
As for late 1st, if Kris Dunn falls that far - why not? I think he could be this year's dark horse if he falls that far.
spycam1
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Damn, that dunk was sweet. Some really good plays in that vid.
He shot 19 FTs in that game (made 15). That's a really good sign; it shows me he's got the ability and willingness to drive to the basket (to pair with his smooth jumper).
Oubre is underrated IMO. I like him. He's got the physical tools and confidence to be a star. I really hope he stays in our range.
Oubre has some good potential, just not sure what to think of him. He's very inconsistent. TCU has very poor individual defenders. Today (or yesterday, whatever) he was virtually invisible when being guarded by wings who are a bit more indicative of the level of athleticism that is on every team in the league. I think he'd be a bit of a project. It'd sure help if he could knock down open jump shots consistently in the very near future. I think he's definitely worth drafting if he's on the board around the range where the Jazz are expected to pick. These days, a team isn't going to be drafting many guys who are going to come in and lead their team right away anyhow. He could end up being great value down the road if he can develop some real skills to go along with his unique physical abilities.
If he didn't show any tendency to coast from time to time I think he'd be much better off because a team could always count on his defensive effort even if he provides little help offensively early in his career.
If he didn't show any tendency to coast from time to time I think he'd be much better off because a team could always count on his defensive effort even if he provides little help offensively early in his career.
spycam1
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He's inconsistent as ****.
But the talent is obviously there, and I think with a coach like Q, Oubre could turn into quite the player.
If he buys into the system and the culture and the team... instead of just getting his. I don't know him personally but from what I've read he's more JR Smith/Nick Young than Kawhi attitude wise.