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Following potential 2015 draftees

I am meh on Russell. I think he is either a role player or an inefficient stats/pts guy.

I wouldn't give up much, at all, to move up for him.
 
Dr. Jones said:
I am meh on Russell. I think he is either a role player or an inefficient stats/pts guy.

I wouldn't give up much, at all, to move up for him.
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The thing is... he fills the statline, even when he's not scoring he creates a lot for teammates, he rebounds a ton for his position. I know what you mean when you say he can turn into an inefficient scorer and to me that's the biggest worry with him, but I feel like he's way too skilled and has way too good of a feel for the game and vision to completely bust. I think his ceiling is a bit lower than Harden/Curry, because purely athletically he's not as physical as Harden and not as fast as Curry, but I still think he can be an amazing offensive talent.

I was trying to find scenarios(comparisons) for his career in which he busts, but it is really hard to find players that have such a well-rounded offensive game that have busted. I guess Trey Burke is a skilled player, who is athletically challenged, for whom you can say is very close to busting, but he's also 5 inches shorter and probably not as skilled really. Ben Gordon? Eric Gordon? CJ McCollum? None of them are as skilled as Russell is. And the first two were >20ppg players on pretty good efficiency in the league in their prime... I don't know. Give me an example of what your fear for him is? Delonte West?
 
freakazoid said:
It's like gambling $10,000 to try and win $100. You might win, but it doesn't mean it's not a stupid bet.
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It's defiantly not a business decision to come back... It's an unfinished biznass decision.
 
If you are guaranteed to be drafted in the first, you do it. If not, then you wait. The difference between 5 and 20 isn't that great money wise, considering you get most of your money in your second contract. If you are good enough, you make enough in that 5th year to make up for the difference. For every 1 guy that is a first round pick, stays and improves their stock, there are 5 guys that drop, possibly lose their spot as a first round pick and lose the guaranteed money.

PKM, maybe you could shed some light on this, but did the Harrisons return because they weren't guaranteed to be first round picks? Seems I remember them both being solidly in the first in mock drafts.
 
Cy said:
Not all people are driven by greed...
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I'm not talking the difference between making 10 million and 8 million. I'm talking about the potential for some kid to miss out on the opportunity of a lifetime. A lot of these kids don't come from money, and signing an NBA contract for millions can mean a huge difference in quality of life for them and their loved ones. People go to college so they can provide a better quality of life for themselves and their families, and a chance to sign an NBA contract is not something that should be taken for granted, as if it will always be there. If someone like Joakim Noah is so rich he doesn't care about money, then bully for him, but for 98% of college kids, gambling with millions of dollars is flat-out asinine, and anyone who tries to convince them otherwise is not looking out for anyone's best interest but their own.
 
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