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Not the rest of the basketball world. QS doesn't run an offense on defined roles. Seriously would you call exum a pg in the offense?

Yes Exum is a point guard... Yes our offense has more position ambiguity than other offenses, but it still has roles. Yes Russell would fill the role of point guard in our offense but also might switch to 2 guard depending on who he was on the court with (you didn't ask that, but it is the original discussion). My point was that you are saying a guy is a 2 and then using a definition of a 2 that no one else uses.

Russ is a combo guard (making him more valuable in my opinion) and will best be used as a primary ball handler.
 
I'm liking Portis more in the late lottery. He's a good combination of potential (only a sophomore with decent physical gifts) and production (SEC POY). He's a good passer, puts in effort on defense, and has a good mid range jumper with potential to stretch it out to the 3 point line one day; all those things seem characteristic of what Snyder wants (passing, defense, outside shooting).

Oh, and he's a bad ***.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFxh9i6QNEY
 
Lol nice stretch on what I said. Trust me you don't want to get into a theological debate with me. God is NOT the only one who judges. A righteous judgment can be made by anyone but keeping in mind you will be judged by how you judge.

Ok I could've done better.
 
Judge Judy's one of my favourite shows growing up BTW. Still try to catch an episode here and there when I've got free time.
 
Judge Judy's one of my favourite shows growing up BTW. Still try to catch an episode here and there when I've got free time.

For second round picks how about Wesley Saunders of Harvard a 6'5" 2 guard, IVY League player of the year and ended his career scoring 26 points 5 assists 4 rebounds vs. North Carolinia in a 2 point loss in the NCAA Tournament and Larry Nance Jr. son of the former Sun from Wyoming and a power forward.
 
White Chocolate's 2015 NBA Draft Big Board

1. Karl-Anthony Towns

Towns has a nice outside jumper as well as a post game. A better defender than Okafor, he averaged 2.3 BPG in a little over 21 minutes a game. He had the best defensive rating in the whole NCAA with a 78.1 rating. Just an all-around good player with good size for a big man, when he gets going he is really hard to stop.

2. D'Angelo Russell

Big-time scorer as a freshman, averaging 19.3 PPG in a little under 34 minutes a game. Really was the only reason Ohio St. was a good team this year. Russell has great size for a point guard and decent size for a shooting guard (same size as Harden). He shot 41% from three with 6.6 attempts a game this year.

3. Jahlil Okafor

The best low-post scorer in the draft with Towns as a close second. Okafor was 2nd in the entire NCAA shooting 66.4% from the field, no question he can score the ball. The reason he isn't #1 is because of his defense, he needs to get quicker on his feet and get in better shape or else he will get scored on a lot in the league.

4. Emmanuel Mudiay

Mudiay is the Dante Exum of the draft this year, it's hard to tell how good of a player he could be at the next level because of the talent level he plays against. He was the #5 recruit in the nation before deciding to go overseas. Has legit size for a point guard at 6'5, is very fast with the ball, and has great athleticism.

5. Justise Winslow

One of the players who helped their stock during the tournament. Winslow can be the ultimate 3 and D player that teams need, he can finish in traffic as well. He has good size for a small forward at 6'7 and plays with a high motor. He shot 41.8% from three with 2.8 attempts a game, he also rebounds very well.

6. Mario Hezonja

I love his confidence, once again it is hard to compare the talent that he plays against, but he plays for one of the best teams in Europe. At 6'8 he will be a big shooting guard in the league. Hezonja is very athletic and he can score very well. He shot 40.6% from three with 3.6 attempts a game, so he can shoot the ball.

7. Willie Cauley-Stein

Cauley-Stein was one of my favorite players to watch this year. He was one of the best defenders in college basketball, a legit 7'0 who was guarding guards and forwards. With the recent success of Gobert and Whiteside, I think he can be an instant contributor at the next level on the defensive end and teams will love him.

8. Kristaps Porzingis

I have seen Porzingis in the top-5 of some people's big board's and I have seen him in the latter part of the top-10. Another one of the international players in the top-10, he is very young only 19 and has great size at 6'11-7'0. He likely would have been a lottery pick last year, but decided to withdraw his name for this year.

9. Frank Kaminsky

The best player in college basketball this year, the downside is that he was a senior and is 22 years old. Can be the ultimate stretch four for teams that are looking for one. Kaminsky handles the ball very well for a big man, rebounds, and can shoot the three. His defense is questionable, but no doubt could he be a contributor.

10. Stanley Johnson

Johnson has a NBA ready body and I think he has the potential to be a great defender in the league. He does a little bit of everything, he is the 2nd best small forward in the draft behind Winslow. He is a great athlete as well and could develop into a 3 and D guy, he could end up being a steal depending on where he goes.

I will do 10 prospects each day for the next couple of days until I finish the top-30. I think the players at 5-7 are interchangeable and I had a hard time deciding where to put who. Also, these look to be the consensus top-10 prospects as of now, but we know that will change with the combine as well as workouts. The Jazz look to be locked in at #12, it would be awesome to get any of these ten guys somehow whether we trade up or if one of them falls.
 
WCS is so much worse offensively than Gobert or Whiteside...heck, he'll have to develop a bit to even be as good as Chandler is offensively.
 
WCS is so much worse offensively than Gobert or Whiteside...heck, he'll have to develop a bit to even be as good as Chandler is offensively.

8.9 PPG in just under 26 minutes a game and shooting 62% from the free-throw line isn't as bad as you are making it out to be. Gobert has work to do on the offensive end, he has no jumps-shot as of right now and no go to post move. Hell, Gobert is averaging 8.4 PPG and is shooting 62% from the line as well.

To say that WCS is so much worse offensively than Gobert is asinine. Gobert gets most of his points from put backs off misses and from getting the ball in the paint and going up and dunking it.
 
8.9 PPG in just under 26 minutes a game and shooting 62% from the free-throw line isn't as bad as you are making it out to be. Gobert has work to do on the offensive end, he has no jumps-shot as of right now and no go to post move. Hell, Gobert is averaging 8.4 PPG and is shooting 62% from the line as well.

To say that WCS is so much worse offensively than Gobert is asinine. Gobert gets most of his points from put backs off misses and from getting the ball in the paint and going up and dunking it.


It is actually a bit scary how little touch WCS has shown around the hoop. Rudy at least can do finger rolls and baby hook shots. WCS isn't even there yet. He'll improve, no doubt, but expecting WCS to score much is unrealistic for now.
 
7. Willie Cauley-Stein

Cauley-Stein was one of my favorite players to watch this year. He was one of the best defenders in college basketball, a legit 7'0 who was guarding guards and forwards. With the recent success of Gobert and Whiteside, I think he can be an instant contributor at the next level on the defensive end and teams will love him.

It is actually a bit scary how little touch WCS has shown around the hoop. Rudy at least can do finger rolls and baby hook shots. WCS isn't even there yet. He'll improve, no doubt, but expecting WCS to score much is unrealistic for now.

Which is why I said he will be an instant contributor on the defensive end not the offensive end. It's funny cause I compare him to Gobert and Whiteside and you would think I compared him to Cousins or Davis by the way you guys are reacting.
 
Which is why I said he will be an instant contributor on the defensive end not the offensive end. It's funny cause I compare him to Gobert and Whiteside and you would think I compared him to Cousins or Davis by the way you guys are reacting.

Strictly on the offensive end.
 
White Chocolate's 2015 NBA Draft Big Board

1. Karl-Anthony Towns

Towns has a nice outside jumper as well as a post game. A better defender than Okafor, he averaged 2.3 BPG in a little over 21 minutes a game. He had the best defensive rating in the whole NCAA with a 78.1 rating. Just an all-around good player with good size for a big man, when he gets going he is really hard to stop.

2. D'Angelo Russell

Big-time scorer as a freshman, averaging 19.3 PPG in a little under 34 minutes a game. Really was the only reason Ohio St. was a good team this year. Russell has great size for a point guard and decent size for a shooting guard (same size as Harden). He shot 41% from three with 6.6 attempts a game this year.

3. Jahlil Okafor

The best low-post scorer in the draft with Towns as a close second. Okafor was 2nd in the entire NCAA shooting 66.4% from the field, no question he can score the ball. The reason he isn't #1 is because of his defense, he needs to get quicker on his feet and get in better shape or else he will get scored on a lot in the league.

4. Emmanuel Mudiay

Mudiay is the Dante Exum of the draft this year, it's hard to tell how good of a player he could be at the next level because of the talent level he plays against. He was the #5 recruit in the nation before deciding to go overseas. Has legit size for a point guard at 6'5, is very fast with the ball, and has great athleticism.

5. Justise Winslow

One of the players who helped their stock during the tournament. Winslow can be the ultimate 3 and D player that teams need, he can finish in traffic as well. He has good size for a small forward at 6'7 and plays with a high motor. He shot 41.8% from three with 2.8 attempts a game, he also rebounds very well.

6. Mario Hezonja

I love his confidence, once again it is hard to compare the talent that he plays against, but he plays for one of the best teams in Europe. At 6'8 he will be a big shooting guard in the league. Hezonja is very athletic and he can score very well. He shot 40.6% from three with 3.6 attempts a game, so he can shoot the ball.

7. Willie Cauley-Stein

Cauley-Stein was one of my favorite players to watch this year. He was one of the best defenders in college basketball, a legit 7'0 who was guarding guards and forwards. With the recent success of Gobert and Whiteside, I think he can be an instant contributor at the next level on the defensive end and teams will love him.

8. Kristaps Porzingis

I have seen Porzingis in the top-5 of some people's big board's and I have seen him in the latter part of the top-10. Another one of the international players in the top-10, he is very young only 19 and has great size at 6'11-7'0. He likely would have been a lottery pick last year, but decided to withdraw his name for this year.

9. Frank Kaminsky

The best player in college basketball this year, the downside is that he was a senior and is 22 years old. Can be the ultimate stretch four for teams that are looking for one. Kaminsky handles the ball very well for a big man, rebounds, and can shoot the three. His defense is questionable, but no doubt could he be a contributor.

10. Stanley Johnson

Johnson has a NBA ready body and I think he has the potential to be a great defender in the league. He does a little bit of everything, he is the 2nd best small forward in the draft behind Winslow. He is a great athlete as well and could develop into a 3 and D guy, he could end up being a steal depending on where he goes.

I will do 10 prospects each day for the next couple of days until I finish the top-30. I think the players at 5-7 are interchangeable and I had a hard time deciding where to put who. Also, these look to be the consensus top-10 prospects as of now, but we know that will change with the combine as well as workouts. The Jazz look to be locked in at #12, it would be awesome to get any of these ten guys somehow whether we trade up or if one of them falls.

good job but sucks for the jazz looking forward to the next 10
 
I think Oubre is still likely to be at least as successful as Stanley Johnson, simply because he's prototypical for the wing positions. There aren't many 6'7" or 6'8" 245-lb players in the league having an impact as starters. Basically, you've got Millsap and Draymond Green. Well, and Lebron James.
 
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