Everyone should listen to this podcast with David Locke and David James starting at 12:50. Just fast forward to the part where he's talking about Kaminsky as the riskiest pick in the draft...
https://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/
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Everyone should listen to this podcast with David Locke and David James starting at 12:50. Just fast forward to the part where he's talking about Kaminsky as the riskiest pick in the draft...
https://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/
Everyone should listen to this podcast with David Locke and David James starting at 12:50. Just fast forward to the part where he's talking about Kaminsky as the riskiest pick in the draft...
https://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/
https://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/
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Everyone should listen to this podcast with David Locke and David James starting at 12:50. Just fast forward to the part where he's talking about Kaminsky as the riskiest pick in the draft...
https://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/
Everyone should listen to this podcast with David Locke and David James starting at 12:50. Just fast forward to the part where he's talking about Kaminsky as the riskiest pick in the draft...
https://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/
Cool.
Nutshell on the Locke podcast:
- Dennis Lindsey apparently said (paraphrase) that the 4-year senior who didn't dominate when he was 18, 19 or 20 is riskier than the 19 year-old elite athlete you don't know much about. Didn't mention Kaminsky by name, specifically.
- Locke points to other examples: Wesley Johnson, Ekpe Udoh, Jimmer Fredette
- Locke says that DL has two of the biggest draft home runs of the past 5 years: Rudy Gobert and Kawhi Leonard. He says the common denominator is elite measurables, athleticism, inner desire to be great and raw/underdeveloped skills. DL sees the Jazz having an advantage in player development. DL's worst pick so far is Trey Burke--college POTY with developed skills, but lacking measurables and athleticism.
This leads me to believe the Jazz will draft someone young, athletic, long and raw, but with strong desire---e.g., Turner, Oubre, Looney, maybe Portis.
David Locke thinks Hollis-Jefferson might also fit the profile.
- Dennis Lindsey apparently said (paraphrase) that the 4-year senior who didn't dominate when he was 18, 19 or 20 is riskier than the 19 year-old elite athlete you don't know much about. Didn't mention Kaminsky by name, specifically.
- Locke points to other examples: Wesley Johnson, Ekpe Udoh, Jimmer Fredette
- Locke says that DL has two of the biggest draft home runs of the past 5 years: Rudy Gobert and Kawhi Leonard. He says the common denominator is elite measurables, athleticism, inner desire to be great and raw/underdeveloped skills. DL sees the Jazz having an advantage in player development. DL's worst pick so far is Trey Burke--college POTY with developed skills, but lacking measurables and athleticism.
This leads me to believe the Jazz will draft someone young, athletic, long and raw, but with strong desire---e.g., Turner, Oubre, Looney, maybe Portis.
David Locke thinks Hollis-Jefferson might also fit the profile.
Jazz4ever
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Locke has admitted he has not watched any college basketball this year, so he probably has no idea Kaminsky dominated the likes of WCS, Towns, Okafor, etc.
He is going by the numbers that 4 year players usually bust. And he was wrong about Frank sucking his first two years, Frank was good in limited minutes his sophomore year (25.8 PER)
True, but Locke is predominantly referring to Dennis Lindsey's comments...
The Thriller
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We need to draft big. Gotta have something other than Gobert, Favors, and Book on that frontline
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Cappy_Smurf
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I trust the opinions of a lot of posters on this board more than Locke's, especially when talking about college players. Also, when talking about DL's best picks so far, Rudy was a fantastic pick, but Leonard was an easy call. He was the BPA available, and I know a lot of us were a little miffed Utah took Burks over him. Also, you have to be careful not to overreact after picking someone like Trey. Just because he didn't work out, doesn't mean Kaminsky won't just because they had one thing in common. Utah has done that before after drafting Stevenson. After Deshawn didn't quite workout like they hoped, they steered away from young questionable players, which caused them to pick Humphries and Snyder over Jefferson and Smith. If Kaminsky is still on the board and Utah passes, it better be because they believe in the guy they go after, not because they're still smarting from the Trey incident.
Jazz4ever
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Who is just one voice in the process. I'm sure Perrin, KOC, Snyder, and other scouts opinions matter a great deal to him.
Even though he did draft Leonard and Gobert, these were value, no brainer picks at the spot. He did not reach to get any of them.
So I'm not sure we've seen enough to pinpoint his drafting style as always athletic and long.
orangello
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That's not what you said originally.
spycam1
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Agreed. Looney and Oubre fit the bill. Maybe Booker, too. He isn't abnormally long or athletic, but he's passable in that regard, produced as a freshman, is the youngest player in the draft (iirc) and brings elite shooting to the table, which we desperately need.
Myles Turner is looking good...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV6jwAbXYzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV6jwAbXYzQ
Jazz4ever
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Wonder if the Jazz will be able to get him for a workout. He is not expected to be there at 12 on any mock.
Doublea
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I really like him. He's smart, can stretch the floor, and defend. He fills a position of need. I could see him really rising up the draft this next month.
His running seems massively improved. There was a great article on DX about the science of running and they used him as an example. I've kind of fallen in love with him as a prospect with time, after being really low on him for most of the year. Would absolutely love it if we can draft him.
orangello
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Why didn't Frank play more minutes? Why were his minutes limited?
I think that's the point Locke is making. Frank wasn't playing at such a level that he was forced to play heavy minutes as a freshman or sophomore in college. Then in his junior year he started getting heavy minutes. At that point he had 2 years learning the system and he was one of the older players in the conference.
I'm not saying Locke is right but when your come back is that his PER was good in limited minutes you sound completely defeated IMO.
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