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Following potential 2015 draftees

ONE LOVE said:
Shaq..... Duncan.... Bynum.... Gasol.... Dirk......... nah, I must be imagining things.
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Shaq was a 3 year college player and he wasn't skill reliant.
Duncan stayed 4 years at Wake Forest and entered at age 21, not 19.
Andrew Bynum at age 18 in his rookie season out of high school averaged 1.6 PPG and 1.7 RPG in 7.3 min and played 46 games. I don't think he was exactly helpful.
In his age 19 sophomore season, Bynum averaged 7.8 and 5.9 in 21.9 minutes. I don't know if he qualifies as skill reliant, as a lot of his game was brute force as well. But I had to admit he was pretty good with his back to the basket at times, though I don't know if that was the case at such a young age.
Pau Gasol's rookie year was great, but at age 21. Also his prior year he recorded 18.5 PPG in EuroLeague play for Barcelona.
Dirk's rookie year at age 20 was the post MJ retirement lockout season. He averaged 8.2 PPG, 3.4 RPG in 20.4minutes playing 47 out of 50 games. He shot 40% from the field, 20% from beyond the arc. I don't know, I don't think that's helping a team win.
 
PKM said:
Is no skill better?
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PKM said:
Towns is 250lbs before he plays his first college game. Not sure 'reliant' is entirely applicable.
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I don't think his brute force 2nd chance points and well timed rolls to the hoop are at a level where with reasonable development until next fall it's somewhere where he can add wins for a team in year 1.

Also I don't think it's bad or anything that he's skilled. I love the fact that he's skilled. But historically much more talented guys have not been able to help their teams win in year 1. And I doubt he'll be capable of doing that.

If you select him you hope he can improve in year 2 and be a steady contributor in year 3. And I'd be thrilled if the Jazz could grab him somehow next summer.
 
BTP said:
I don't think his brute force 2nd chance points and well timed rolls to the hoop are at a level where with reasonable development until next fall it's somewhere where he can add wins for a team in year 1.

Also I don't think it's bad or anything that he's skilled. I love the fact that he's skilled. But historically much more talented guys have not been able to help their teams win in year 1. And I doubt he'll be capable of doing that.

If you select him you hope he can improve in year 2 and be a steady contributor in year 3. And I'd be thrilled if the Jazz could grab him somehow next summer.
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Didn't know this is what you were talking about. Thought you were projecting his future/ceiling.
 
PKM said:
Didn't know this is what you were talking about. Thought you were projecting his future/ceiling.
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ONE LOVE said:
I can feel it in my gut that if we have Karl Towns in our team, we're looking at becoming a real contender in 2017.
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This one got me stirred up. I don't think a rookie/2nd year Karl Towns can contribute to winning. If the Jazz were real contenders in 2017(which I doubt, but I think they have chances of safely making the playoffs by then) then Towns is very unlikely to be helpful, let alone the reason that happens.

This would be the work of Favors, Burke, Burks, Hayward
 
PKM said:
Towns is 250lbs before he plays his first college game. Not sure 'reliant' is entirely applicable.
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This.


Dunno where this 'skill reliant' thing comes from, but I definitely don't see it with Towns.


That boy's got legit NBA ready size RIGHT NOW.
 
BTP said:
This one got me stirred up. I don't think a rookie/2nd year Karl Towns can contribute to winning. If the Jazz were real contenders in 2017(which I doubt, but I think they have chances of safely making the playoffs by then) then Towns is very unlikely to be helpful, let alone the reason that happens.

This would be the work of Favors, Burke, Burks, Hayward
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Not denying that - but Towns would be the perfect missing piece.
 
PKM just wants a whole Kentucky team in UTAH doesn't he?
Second lets wait and see what he does in college before declaring him ready or not ready to play with the bigboys on a playoff team.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Not denying that - but Towns would be the perfect missing piece.
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I'm the same opinion. I just stated a prognosis based on growing pains of past prodigies that were let's say "more talented" than Towns.

I just think it's an unreasonable prediction to think that he may be capable of contributing meaningfully in year 1 or 2. Even in year 3 most players still have growing to do and gigantic holes in their games.
 
BTP said:
I'm the same opinion. I just stated a prognosis based on growing pains of past prodigies that were let's say "more talented" than Towns.

I just think it's an unreasonable prediction to think that he may be capable of contributing meaningfully in year 1 or 2. Even in year 3 most players still have growing to do and gigantic holes in their games.
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So Anthony Davis is just starting his 3rd year...


To me Towns has just as much talent (minus the body - but that's the easiest one to work on, let's be honest).
 
ONE LOVE said:
So Anthony Davis is just starting his 3rd year...


To me Towns has just as much talent (minus the body - but that's the easiest one to work on, let's be honest).
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Honestly I think Towns ceiling is being a more mobile, but less talented Cousins without the reality altering drugs that dude is taking...

Anthony Davis ceiling is somewhere on Mount Rushmore ;)
 
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