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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

The improved space thing is a real thing…I’m not sure it’s always accurately applied though. It’s difficult to do so. Often times I feel as though it’s an excuse, but you do see guys who are way better around the basket in the pros. Having said that, is it actually spacing or did they just make big improvements?

McCain and Flip are two guys who are way better in the pros. I’m hearing a lot of CBB make fun of Sheyer for being a trash offensive coach. So maybe that’s a real thing for Coop.

What’s definitely true is that the NBA is progressing way faster than NCAA basketball. They are playing too different sports.
 
Ace has 7 shots total at the rim. I’m not sure he has successfully completed a drive to the basket yet.

I still think Ace is great, but I definitely lean towards a player like Harper who can get to the easy baskets even if he may not be as good at making difficult shots.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I think the increased space in the NBA is usually negated by the improved rim protection in the NBA.
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This. So often people just think about the 20 yards of green grass and forget that the trees are taller at the end of that meadow. And they have smarter branches.

Damn I ruined my metaphor.

(PS: Also in the NBA its tougher to get past the 1st guy. No use in seeing more space when you cant get to that space. Couldnt fit that in my beautiful landscape.)
 
Flagg looks way more comfortable as a roller than a handler in those highlights to me. Would be sort of scared of taking him hoping he's a number one option even though you probably have to do it.
 
mhindy said:
Flagg looks way more comfortable as a roller than a handler in those highlights to me. Would be sort of scared of taking him hoping he's a number one option even though you probably have to do it.
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Flagg and Ace are probably gonna be modern day stretch bigs once they come into the NBA. Just not enough skills to handle the ball on a regular basis. It's fine if they can work on their post moves and finishing touch.
 
Ehh, Flagg and Bailey are too small to be real big men. Flagg is the size of Tatum, Anunoby, and Barnes and should be compared to those guys.

Both Flagg and Bailey are definitely PFs, but definitely not Cs.
 
Watching the more detailed film highlights, I think that Harper is currently a better defender than VJ. VJ has potential to be a special defensive talent in the NBA someday, but he's currently not disciplined enough to do a good job. He's often in the wrong place or making the wrong play. His defensive highlights are special, but the film I'm watching shows Harper making the more effective defensive play more often.

I really love VJ, but he's definitely more of a project. I think you can draft Harper and he can make a positive impact pretty immediately. VJ might take a lot longer before he's a positive contributor.
 
Not concerned on Flagg at all. Adams is old enough to be his dad and a true physical specimen. Harper looks great. Not a monster athlete but seems like a good functional athlete. Big body Brunson feels right. The shot is a little goofy but he should be able to clean it up. Guessing Coop/Harper end up 1 and 2 on draft night.
 
So could there be a chance that by draft day Cooper Flagg may not be the clear cut #1 pick
He does seem to have some flaws in his game that are being exposed as season progresses
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Watching the more detailed film highlights, I think that Harper is currently a better defender than VJ. VJ has potential to be a special defensive talent in the NBA someday, but he's currently not disciplined enough to do a good job. He's often in the wrong place or making the wrong play. His defensive highlights are special, but the film I'm watching shows Harper making the more effective defensive play more often.

I really love VJ, but he's definitely more of a project. I think you can draft Harper and he can make a positive impact pretty immediately. VJ might take a lot longer before he's a positive contributor.
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I worry about VJ's ability to change speeds and beat guys if he doesn't just blow by them. Of course, it's nice that he can often just blow by them. There just doesn't seem to be much nuance to his game at the moment.
 
slc said:
So could there be a chance that by draft day Cooper Flagg may not be the clear cut #1 pick
He does seem to have some flaws in his game that are being exposed as season progresses
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I think he's the #1 pick. He can do a lot of Tatum things plus be a game-changing defensive player.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Not concerned on Flagg at all. Adams is old enough to be his dad and a true physical specimen. Harper looks great. Not a monster athlete but seems like a good functional athlete. Big body Brunson feels right. The shot is a little goofy but he should be able to clean it up. Guessing Coop/Harper end up 1 and 2 on draft night.
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Tony Jones made a reference to Brandon Roy with Harper, which I thought was interesting.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I can’t shake the feeling that Egor is The Chosen One (for us).
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I hope so. That would be awesome

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Tre Johnson should be better than Keyonte. It's not a direct comparison, since Keyonte is a combo-guard and Tre is a 2-guard.
Kon Kneuppel should be better than Brice. He has better feel and timing on the ball and a quicker release on his jumper.
There are a bunch of defense-oriented energy bigs in the mid-1st round onward, and none of them are quite selling me--Asa Newell, JT Toppin, Donnie Freeman, etc.
I wouldn't bet on Derik Queen at this point. I think he's a backup.
Boogie Fland has some skill, but he's small and is forced to take some tough attempts.
I'd be curious about Carter Bryant at Arizona in the 2nd half of the 1st round.
 
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