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seattlejazzfan said:
if you want another cody williams who is going to stand around doing nothing, be my guest. i was on an island regarding the mistake it would be to draft williams before the draft too. go ahead and make the same mistake a year later with bryant.
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i was with you on williams. you were not alone.
 
Two things that are very clear to me about Harper and Ace:

1. Very talented
2. Don't play smart

I think Harper is ahead of Ace in terms of BBIQ, but he also doesn't play in a very optimal way. I think a big part of this is that their current coach placates to their every need and they can do whatever they want. That's fine for now, but a lot of their success will be based on how they receive coaching at the next level and adjust the way they play. Both seem to be good kids, but I don't think it's as easy as flipping a switch. If you think they can adapt, you have a star.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Feels like whenever I check his box scores he's always very consistent. I think he has a very high floor.
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He compares well with the Morris twins at Kansas. That might be a reasonable expectation as a floor. Fleming also has some athletic burst and isn't a complete knucklehead compared to the Morris twins.

I think the Jazz are going to seriously consider Fleming, Bryant and Murray-Boyles with the Twolves pick.
 
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I haven't watched a full game of Fleming, but how do we feel about his general floor game/IQ? Is he on the TH side of things were you barely see him dribble? Think Fleming looks great on paper and on highlights, but that's all I've seen of him so far.
 
First guy that comes to mind with each of these players:

Flagg - KG
Harper - Jalen Williams
Ace - Carmelo
Kas - DLO
VJ - Oladipo pre breakout
Tre - Poole
Traore - Shroeder
Demin - Giddey but can't dribble
 
KqWIN said:
First guy that comes to mind with each of these players:

Flagg - KG
Harper - Jalen Williams
Ace - Carmelo
Kas - DLO
VJ - Oladipo pre breakout
Tre - Poole
Traore - Shroeder
Demin - Giddey but can't dribble
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Jalen Williams?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Jalen Williams?
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Offensively he’s the best comparison I can come up with. Neither is the best shooter or a nuclear athlete, but their overall size combine with a tight handle makes them a force at the rim. I think some would say, “Harper is a PG and Jalen is not”. The labels are just not something I really care about.
 
KqWIN said:
I haven't watched a full game of Fleming, but how do we feel about his general floor game/IQ? Is he on the TH side of things were you barely see him dribble? Think Fleming looks great on paper and on highlights, but that's all I've seen of him so far.
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Yes, he's kind of on that side. He has a stronger base which gives me some hope he can be a better straight line driver than Hendricks has shown, but his college team doesnt really give him opportunity to expand his game like that.
 
KqWIN said:
Two things that are very clear to me about Harper and Ace:

1. Very talented
2. Don't play smart

I think Harper is ahead of Ace in terms of BBIQ, but he also doesn't play in a very optimal way. I think a big part of this is that their current coach placates to their every need and they can do whatever they want. That's fine for now, but a lot of their success will be based on how they receive coaching at the next level and adjust the way they play. Both seem to be good kids, but I don't think it's as easy as flipping a switch. If you think they can adapt, you have a star.
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i watched harper a bit and although some shots are head scratchers i think he plays very smart. he plays good defense. i see him drive and kick the ball. smart plays. his defense is better than i thought. the only real problem with harper is will he play in utah.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
  1. Flagg
  2. Harper
  3. Edgecombe
  4. Bailey
  5. Kasper Jak
  6. Johnson
  7. Fleming
  8. Traore
  9. McNeeley
  10. Bryant
  11. Wolf
  12. Queen
  13. Essengue
  14. Richardson
  15. Fears
  16. Malauch
  17. Gonzalez
  18. Demin
  19. Sorber
  20. Murray-Boyles
  21. Knueppel
  22. Saraf
  23. Beringer
  24. Fland
  25. Lawal
  26. Broome
  27. Clifford
  28. Toppin
  29. Newell
  30. Z Ivisic
Rough attempt at a top 30
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Big Board

  1. Cooper Flagg PF 6’9”️
  2. Dylan Harper PG 6’6”
  3. Ace Bailey SF 6’10”
  4. VJ Edgecombe SG 6’5”
  5. Tre Johnson SG 6’6”
  6. KasparJakucionis G 6’6”
  7. Derik Queen C 6’10”
  8. Nolan Traore PG 6’4”
  9. Asa Newell PF 6’11”
  10. Egor Demin SF 6’9”
  11. Carter Bryant SF 6’8”
  12. Noa Esseunge SF 6’9”
  13. Joan Beringer PF 6’ 11”
  14. Jeremiah Fears PG 6’4”
  15. Rasheer Fleming PF 6’9”
  16. Kahman Maluch C 7’2”
  17. Danny Wolf C 7’0”
  18. Ian Jackson SG 6’6”
  19. Liam McNeely SF 6’7”
  20. Hugo Gonzalez SF 6’7”
  21. ColinMurrayBoylesPF6’7”
  22. Ben Saraf PG 6’5”
  23. LaBaron Philon PG 6’4”
  24. Boogie Fland PG 6’2”
  25. Adou Theiro SF 6’8”
  26. Dink Pate PG 6’8”
  27. Thomas Sorber C 6’10”
  28. Jase Richardson PG 6’3”
  29. Kon Knueppel SF 6’6”
  30. Nique Clifford SF 6’6”
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbilbUp_JFk
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No Fleming in your sig?



Saint Cy of JFC said:
  1. Flagg
  2. Harper
  3. Edgecombe
  4. Bailey
  5. Kasper Jak
  6. Johnson
  7. Fleming
  8. Traore
  9. McNeeley
  10. Bryant
  11. Wolf
  12. Queen
  13. Essengue
  14. Richardson
  15. Fears
  16. Malauch
  17. Gonzalez
  18. Demin
  19. Sorber
  20. Murray-Boyles
  21. Knueppel
  22. Saraf
  23. Beringer
  24. Fland
  25. Lawal
  26. Broome
  27. Clifford
  28. Toppin
  29. Newell
  30. Z Ivisic
Rough attempt at a top 30
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Last I saw your board I believe you said it would be hard for your top 6 to change at all, and laughed at someone mentioning Edgecombe getting into that group. May I ask what has changed?
 
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