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Following Potential Draftees - 2019 (not kidding)

Lord Bullingdon said:
1. NO - Zion Williamson - easily the #1 pick on all boards, its not even close, he is worth at least $100,000,000 more than Ja to a team, and that # is stupid low tbh.

2. MEM - Ja Morant - best high-volume PG in the draft. Most athletic since D Fox.

3. NY - Darius Garland - best of both worlds, deadly quick-release sniper & great pg. Been hyping him here for years... This pick will be unpopular but the Knicks need shooting and Garland is very low-risk. I am a huge believer in Garland. One of my favorite PG's in a while.

4. LAL - Cam Reddish - Shades of Paul George. Lakers Swing Big with the 4th pick and give LeBron some much needed floor spacing. They can run all sorts of giant lineups with 6'7-6'8-'6'9 guards/wings, which is something i've been advocating them doing for years.. (tatum..)

5. CLE -Jarrett Culver - Shades of Jimmy Butler, advanced footwork/face-up. Excellent value pick.

6. PHX - Coby White - blazing 1st step, keeps his head up. more efficient jordan clarkson. This pick is a slight value reach IMO, but the suns PG situation more than warrants it.

7. CHI - Sekou Doumboya - FREIGHT TRAIN in transition, blocks shots and he's got this unmistakable level of finesse. Youngest player in the draft, no brainer top-10 guy. His instincts are good... I like his feel for the game.This kid is gonna be a monster at 25 years old...

8. ATL - R.J. Barrett - He's low on my board cuz of the 3pt shot and his shot selection, prone to hero ball. If he lands in the right spot, he'll be just fine tho. excellent defensive potential, I like him as a lockdown SG over high volume SF u saw at Duke. I prefer Doumbouya, who you guys havent seen....

9. WAS - Jaxson Hayes -Shades of Marcus Camby, possibly still growing too. He's gonna catch BODIES with ease. This is seemingly a perfect match.

10. ATL - De'Andre Hunter - New Age Paul Millsap. Tremendous value.

11. MIN - Nickeil Alexander-Walker - He is legit... PPl who have him in the 20's are fools. He's got combo skills, he's not shai but he's got these hurky jerky dribbles, and he's not afraid to take it to the rack,,, and he can shoot it.

12. CHA - Romeo Langford - SG - Indiana - Fr. - Lotta sideways **** said about Romeo, I think he can shoot, and he's gonna make whoever takes him look real smart.

13. MIA - Brandon Clarke - PF - Gonzaga - Jr. - shades of Kenyon Martin.

14. BOS - Bol Bol. If his foots ok. Bol has exceptional hand-eye coordination, he's built to run. he can shoot. solid value.

15. DET - Rui Hachimura - Legit NBA athlete, he's got game. With steady progress he'll be a steal.

16. ORL - Goga Bitadze - Tough C, He's big too 7'4 wingspan, can hold his ground. He can shoot it... This kid is gonna play 10 years in the league, he coulda beeen a backup this yr. rich mans nenad kristic....

17. BKN - Kezie Okpala - SF - Stanford - Brandon Ingram-lite. 6'10 and a SF. seems like the type who rises the boards in the days leading up to the draft... like everyones BS'ing right now pretending they dont want him type ****.

18. IND - Tyler Herro - Great pull-up and catch-shoot guy. Kennard.

19. SAS - Bruno Fernando - One of the more NBA ready bigs, his game is solid all around for a player that age.

20. BOS - Nic Claxton - former SF who had a growthspurt. not gonna flame out anytime soon. His skillset is something all teams look for these days.

21. OKC - PJ Washington - PF/SF - Another Paul Millsap type player. This is a Jackpot scenario for OKC...

22. BOS - Kevin Porter Jr. - "It only takes one team" special, he's got baggage, he's got a great frame and potential. there were reports not too long ago GM's were smitten with him.. lotta smoke around him..

23. UTA -Talen Horton-Tucker - SG/SF - Iowa St. - Fr. winner, built like bonzi wells. I cant image too many playoff teams are gonna pass on him. super young. great vision and can handle.

24. PHI - Carsen Edwards - I like Edwards. He reminds me of jerryd bayless and david wesley, he lands in the right spot he'll be great. his 1st step will be legit in the league. Perfect fit for Philly with Simmons.....

25. POR - Keldon Johnson - SG/SF - Kentucky - Fr. This kid is a terrific glue guy, he will benefit GREATLY from landing on a super-high-pace team, he's built to run. Great value.

26. CLE - Darius Bazley. Ultra talented. I he's like Quincy Miller before the injury, but bigger and better, and that shot looks pure to me. shades of rashard lewis. this would be a home-town kid pick!

27. BKN- Ty Jerome - Rick James Cold-Blooded PG. He has Ice running thru his veins. I have been getting clowned here for years for hyping UVa, and they won the championship this year.......

28. GSW - Luka Samanic - Very skilled 6'11 PF, he's got real ball-skills.very young too. Would be ideal spot for him. He can shoot, wouldnt be in the 1st if i didn't think so.

29. SAS -Nas Little - ****** version of Kahwi. hustle-player.

30. MIL - Mifondu Kambengele - Word is he might go 10-15 spots higher..
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This is more of a big board than a mock tbh.
 
I would not be disappointed if jazz took Samanic. He looks pretty athletic and can shoot. His size is a plus. (This info coming of course by two 5 min youtube clips)
 
If Matisse Thybulle is available and we pass on him I will be disappointed.

Also, Olynyk could be really good on our team so I would be happy to take him and a draft pick from Miami.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I’m not sure what you’re mad about. I guess I understand why you’d be embarrassed that you don’t know what a mock draft is.
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What is a mock? what is a mockery? what is a mock draft as defined by mirriam-webster? go! you seem to have this top-secret coca-cola style formula... but is it really a formula? or is it yet another case of someone trying to hold their personal bias like its some prevailing wisdom??

You've voiced your displeasure twice but cite no evidence as to what disqualifies this from your personal qualifications for a mock. Doesn't sound like much of a debunking at all... More like (surprise!) another exercise in voyeurism.

Talking with people these days, mostly is talking with them about their conditions...

Whos to even say that your conditions match with the rationale i placed on who's where and why? awfully presumptuous.

It's not close enough to the consensus for your personal tastes is it? You prefer the status quo mocks and say mines distorted? I say the opposite....
 
just because said:
I would not be disappointed if jazz took Samanic. He looks pretty athletic and can shoot. His size is a plus. (This info coming of course by two 5 min youtube clips)
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Concern is that he is inconsistent and didn't really put much effort on defense which could be because he was on a bad team that wouldn't go anywhere. His comments after the workout are promising, though, if he really is a passable 1 through 4 defender, he is going to be a steal.
 
Lord Bullingdon said:
What is a mock? what is a mockery? what is a mock draft as defined by mirriam-webster? go! you seem to have this top-secret coca-cola style formula... but is it really a formula? or is it yet another case of someone trying to hold their personal bias like its some prevailing wisdom??

You've voiced your displeasure twice but cite no evidence as to what disqualifies this from your personal qualifications for a mock. Doesn't sound like much of a debunking at all... More like (surprise!) another exercise in voyeurism.

Talking with people these days, mostly is talking with them about their conditions...

Whos to even say that your conditions match with the rationale i placed on who's where and why? awfully presumptuous.

It's not close enough to the consensus for your personal tastes is it? You prefer the status quo mocks and say mines distorted? I say the opposite....
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Mock also means to imitate. Words have more than one meaning. When people say mock draft, it means that this is how the draft should go, taking into consideration everything, including Lavar Ball. Yours is a big board because, it's based on the talent and potential level of the players.

Hope this helps you not being so ****ing insecure next time.
 
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Can Olynyk defend anyone? I like his shooting numbers quite a bit. And his rebounding numbers concern me.
 
Lord Bullingdon said:
What is a mock? what is a mockery? what is a mock draft as defined by mirriam-webster? go! you seem to have this top-secret coca-cola style formula... but is it really a formula? or is it yet another case of someone trying to hold their personal bias like its some prevailing wisdom??

You've voiced your displeasure twice but cite no evidence as to what disqualifies this from your personal qualifications for a mock. Doesn't sound like much of a debunking at all... More like (surprise!) another exercise in voyeurism.

Talking with people these days, mostly is talking with them about their conditions...

Whos to even say that your conditions match with the rationale i placed on who's where and why? awfully presumptuous.

It's not close enough to the consensus for your personal tastes is it? You prefer the status quo mocks and say mines distorted? I say the opposite....
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For what it’s worth, I enjoyed going through your list.
 
Hekate said:
Mock also means to imitate. Words have more than one meaning. When people say mock draft, it means that this is how the draft should go, taking into consideration everything, including Lavar Ball. Yours is a big board because, it's based on the talent and potential level of the players.

Hope this helps you not being so ****ing insecure next time.
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This. A mock is what you think the teams will actually do. A big board is your personal opinion of each prospect. His mock was based on his personal opinions of each prospect. So it felt more like a big board to me. That's all I was saying. Idk why he got defensive.
 
Wonder how much higher Carsen Edwards would be mocked if he was 6'2" with the exact same wingspan and standing reach he has now. Wonder if people are scared off solely from his sub 6'0" height without shoes. Was in the 95th percentile in off the dribble jumpers as a soph (can't find the numbers for last year). Shooting 3s off the dribble is so valuable now.

Edwards shot 36.4% from NBA 3 on 313 attempts, and 47.4% of his 3s were assisted.
For comparison, Tyler Herro shot 31.8% on NBA 3s on 113 attempts, and 81.7% of his 3s were assisted.
Ty Jerome: 40.6% on NBA 3s on 138 attempts, and 68.4% of his 3s were assisted.
Dylan Windler: 47.8% on NBA 3s on 23 attempts, and 88% of his 3s were assisted.
Cameron Johnson: 46.3% on NBA 3s on 162 attempts and 92.7% of his 3s were assisted.
 
zyzz said:
Wonder how much higher Carsen Edwards would be mocked if he was 6'2" with the exact same wingspan and standing reach he has now. Wonder if people are scared off solely from his sub 6'0" height without shoes. Was in the 95th percentile in off the dribble jumpers as a soph (can't find the numbers for last year). Shooting 3s off the dribble is so valuable now.

Edwards shot 36.4% from NBA 3 on 313 attempts, and 47.4% of his 3s were assisted.
For comparison, Tyler Herro shot 31.8% on NBA 3s on 113 attempts, and 81.7% of his 3s were assisted.
Ty Jerome: 40.6% on NBA 3s on 138 attempts, and 68.4% of his 3s were assisted.
Dylan Windler: 47.8% on NBA 3s on 23 attempts, and 88% of his 3s were assisted.
Cameron Johnson: 46.3% on NBA 3s on 162 attempts and 92.7% of his 3s were assisted.
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I kind of like Edwards but is he going to be significantly better than Shabazz Napier? He could be, but sometimes these guys that have such a high usage in college can't adjust in the NBA when they are a role player.

For as much as people have crapped on this draft there are a lot of guys in our range I like... I know it was more about the lotto being weak after the top 3 but you can make a good case for a lot of these dudes. I think we can find something useful.
 
zyzz said:
Wonder how much higher Carsen Edwards would be mocked if he was 6'2" with the exact same wingspan and standing reach he has now. Wonder if people are scared off solely from his sub 6'0" height without shoes. Was in the 95th percentile in off the dribble jumpers as a soph (can't find the numbers for last year). Shooting 3s off the dribble is so valuable now.

Edwards shot 36.4% from NBA 3 on 313 attempts, and 47.4% of his 3s were assisted.
For comparison, Tyler Herro shot 31.8% on NBA 3s on 113 attempts, and 81.7% of his 3s were assisted.
Ty Jerome: 40.6% on NBA 3s on 138 attempts, and 68.4% of his 3s were assisted.
Dylan Windler: 47.8% on NBA 3s on 23 attempts, and 88% of his 3s were assisted.
Cameron Johnson: 46.3% on NBA 3s on 162 attempts and 92.7% of his 3s were assisted.
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Carsen Edwards should be the pick. 6 foot, 6'6" wingspan, solid 200 pounds.

Can create, great shooter.

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I’m sorry, but I don’t see a Jazz player in Edwards. He’s a SG in a (small) PG’s body. He’s inefficient, can’t create for others and is a liability on defense. I’d rather have Ty Jerome despite his shortcomings.
Ofcourse my opinion means he’ll probably turn out the next Lou Williams...
 
zyzz said:
Wonder how much higher Carsen Edwards would be mocked if he was 6'2" with the exact same wingspan and standing reach he has now. Wonder if people are scared off solely from his sub 6'0" height without shoes. Was in the 95th percentile in off the dribble jumpers as a soph (can't find the numbers for last year). Shooting 3s off the dribble is so valuable now.

Edwards shot 36.4% from NBA 3 on 313 attempts, and 47.4% of his 3s were assisted.
For comparison, Tyler Herro shot 31.8% on NBA 3s on 113 attempts, and 81.7% of his 3s were assisted.
Ty Jerome: 40.6% on NBA 3s on 138 attempts, and 68.4% of his 3s were assisted.
Dylan Windler: 47.8% on NBA 3s on 23 attempts, and 88% of his 3s were assisted.
Cameron Johnson: 46.3% on NBA 3s on 162 attempts and 92.7% of his 3s were assisted.
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I do put some faith in that stat. Any chance you can look up Trey Burke's percentage of assisted 3s in college?
 
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