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For those of you BYU pukes cheering Jimmer...
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Weron Dilliams
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Gosh Jazz Fans are the best in the world but why can't we like a local player? I love the jazz and their fans but most on this board are just arrogant haters using the anonymity of the internet...
Great Game last night though, I was there. I cheered for Jimmer, but cheered louder for CJ's steal and Alec Burks put back.
Gosh and everyone just circle jerk hates on mormons too, I mean cmon they are decent people and while i may not agree with them quit hating. I hate haters.
...ironic i know
Great Game last night though, I was there. I cheered for Jimmer, but cheered louder for CJ's steal and Alec Burks put back.
Gosh and everyone just circle jerk hates on mormons too, I mean cmon they are decent people and while i may not agree with them quit hating. I hate haters.
...ironic i know
7StraightIsGreat
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LOL @ Duck who gave props to BYU fans who packed the Marriott Center on a night when Jimmer was playing in SLC. They watched their team get their asses kicked, littered the court with trash and acted like total D-Bags. Obviously they deserve major props. Stay classy Provo. Also, I actually respect Dave Rose quite a bit, but why didn't he grab a mic and ask the fans to stop? Isn't that pretty much normal protocal in that situation?
Also, props to to Thriller for indirectly blaming the officials for a 14 point loss in a game where BYU actually spent a good amount of time down even bigger during the game. I guess the refs blew the call on the final 15 point shot BYU had to win the game?
Man, I would try not to hate everything BYU but they make it SO EASY!
Also, props to to Thriller for indirectly blaming the officials for a 14 point loss in a game where BYU actually spent a good amount of time down even bigger during the game. I guess the refs blew the call on the final 15 point shot BYU had to win the game?
Man, I would try not to hate everything BYU but they make it SO EASY!
Duck Rodgers
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I was giving them props for being just as loud when they were down 20 as it was at the start of the game, not throwing projectiles. Unlike games in the Hun, we don't hear pins dropping frequently in Provo.....you have to throw a ****ing hamburger or a pizza on the court to get any attention there. I like it that way. Although, I was out of town yesterday so unfortunately I didn't get to be there or at ESA....but personally I wouldn't have been cheering Jimmer....I just like the fact that it bothered so many of you. Everything else about the situation is immaterial to me. You guys hate it, and I love that you hate it. That's it.
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Nice to notice that you, a ute fan, were apparently watching the byu game.... I guess you dont have any other local college basketball team to watch so you dont really have a choice but to watch byu games for you local college bball fix. (cause the utes are so bad they cant be considered a real team)
The limits of scarecrow arguing/barking at ghosts that Archie employs is staggering.
The Thriller
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Apparently you saw what you wanted to see. Because, the only thing I saw last night was one horribly officiated game won by a clearly better St. Marys team. A BYU crowd throwing stuff onto the floor and usually extremely to a fault calm Dave Rose going Jerry Sloan on the refs should be an indicator of how well officiated that game was.
Obviously though, even with good officials, I don't think BYU even comes within single digits of winning this game. St. Marys is better than this year's BYU team in almost every single way.
I will say however, it would have been interesting if BYU had kept going inside to Davies. Early on he looked like he was going to go off. Instead, Carlino and co decided to go CJ and chuck up 3s which gave St. Marys ample opportunity to take the crowd out of the game and set the tone.
The Thriller
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Gotta love those who moan for toleration and demand it from others... While opening displaying complete lack of toleration.
Thanks OP and so many others who have posted in this thread, for showing complete and utter disregard for the beliefs of others. You're great examples of "tolerance."
Thanks OP and so many others who have posted in this thread, for showing complete and utter disregard for the beliefs of others. You're great examples of "tolerance."
7StraightIsGreat
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Let me educate you a little bit: We live in 2012. It's pretty easy to access digital media and see EXACTLY what happened in a sporting event without watching the entire thing. I wasn't a Ute fan sitting at home watching the BYU game. However, that doesn't mean I didn't see what happened, read about happened and have seen quotes by some of the folks involved with what happened. On a side note, it's funny to read comments from fans of other WCC schools on the matter. BYU hasn't even been in the there an entire season and may already be the most hated team/fanbase in the conference. Love it.
I live close to Ogden so Weber State can help me with my local Bball fix. That's especially nice this year considering they'll most likely be the only team to represent the state of Utah in the NCAA Tourny. Not only that, but I really like Coach K and think 2-3 years from now Utah will be getting close to regaining the right to claim themselves as the best Bball program in the state of Utah. BYU had their once in a generation or lifetime player in Jimmer, and they rode it to an amazing run of ZERO Elite 8 and Final 4 appearances. Now their window is closing and Utah is rebuilding in the right direction. Unless BYU can catch lightening in a bottle twice with another Jimmer-type player very soon, they will once again be in a famaliar position: Looking up at Utah on the Bball ladder.
That shouldn't be too tough of a pill to swallow considering they already have that view in football. Have a nice day.
How can you seriously say that Utah is building in the right direction? They could have 12 new players next year and be building in the right direction. Everything I've heard about LK is he is a good coach but is not a good recruiter. He better have some assistants to do that and I don't know if he does. They did land the kid from West Jordan but BYU will get all the kids from the South schools in the next few years.
I think the homer glasses need to be adjusted... Just my opinion. Right now the PAC 12 is probably the worst basketball conference out West. The WCC is better and Webers is probably better. That can and probably will change but Utah in no way is in a good position. Considering the PAC is at it worst it's not good that your team isn't even competing in that bad of a conference.
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By the way, i dont think byu is really looking up to the utes in football. (aside from the a** whooping they received last season)
They have won alot of football games for alot of years now with a nice streak of bowl game wins as well.... and they apparently like being independent since they turned down the chance to go into a bcs conference.
As a byu fan I am quite happy with how things are right now..... lots of wins, and lots of exposure.
Are things perfect? of course not. i would love to get into a bcs game, but 10 wins most years and being on espn or byutv and getting to watch every game of every sport in HD is fine by me..... Plus the football schedule gets much much better in the next few years.
They have won alot of football games for alot of years now with a nice streak of bowl game wins as well.... and they apparently like being independent since they turned down the chance to go into a bcs conference.
As a byu fan I am quite happy with how things are right now..... lots of wins, and lots of exposure.
Are things perfect? of course not. i would love to get into a bcs game, but 10 wins most years and being on espn or byutv and getting to watch every game of every sport in HD is fine by me..... Plus the football schedule gets much much better in the next few years.
The Thriller
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Gotta love the overwhelming confidence Utah fans have in their program.
Ya, their current coach is probably better than the previous abortions....
However, they make it sound like their "once in a lifetime" coaches grow on trees. Jimmer? Sure, a once in a lifetime player. Majerus and what he did at Utah? Not too common either.
Even if coach K ends up being pretty good. I don't think that means that Utah will be making any sweet 16 appearances either. Utah needs to realize that they're not Duke or North Carolina. FARRRRR more often than not, you folks are going to finish in the middle of the Pac and will be out in the first two rounds of the tournament (or miss it altogether). Face it, you folks had your shot with Majerus. It's over now. 1998 is over. come join us in 2012.
However, judging by the amount of **** Utes are talking, you'd swear they had already dominated Duke, Syracuse, the Miami Heat, and the Dream Team already.
None of the Utah colleges are going to be building any basketball dynasties anytime soon (if ever).
Which is why I have no problem cheering guys like Andre Miller, Bogut, Jimmer, etc.
We're not NC and Duke, who pump out NBA players yearly and are in constant competition for the NC Crown. Our poor to decent teams are common. Great teams with NBA players are rare.
But that's ok.... Go back to living in your fantasy where only Ute players can be cheered at Jazz games, where the Utes are off winning Pac-12 championships as if they were USC, and going to the Final 4 as if they were North Carolina. And BYU will lose and suck every game in football and basketball and no one will ever go play for their school ever again.
Ya, their current coach is probably better than the previous abortions....
However, they make it sound like their "once in a lifetime" coaches grow on trees. Jimmer? Sure, a once in a lifetime player. Majerus and what he did at Utah? Not too common either.
Even if coach K ends up being pretty good. I don't think that means that Utah will be making any sweet 16 appearances either. Utah needs to realize that they're not Duke or North Carolina. FARRRRR more often than not, you folks are going to finish in the middle of the Pac and will be out in the first two rounds of the tournament (or miss it altogether). Face it, you folks had your shot with Majerus. It's over now. 1998 is over. come join us in 2012.
However, judging by the amount of **** Utes are talking, you'd swear they had already dominated Duke, Syracuse, the Miami Heat, and the Dream Team already.
None of the Utah colleges are going to be building any basketball dynasties anytime soon (if ever).
Which is why I have no problem cheering guys like Andre Miller, Bogut, Jimmer, etc.
We're not NC and Duke, who pump out NBA players yearly and are in constant competition for the NC Crown. Our poor to decent teams are common. Great teams with NBA players are rare.
But that's ok.... Go back to living in your fantasy where only Ute players can be cheered at Jazz games, where the Utes are off winning Pac-12 championships as if they were USC, and going to the Final 4 as if they were North Carolina. And BYU will lose and suck every game in football and basketball and no one will ever go play for their school ever again.
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Archie Moses
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Nice back peddle, guy.
Stifle Tower
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Obviously you weren't around here during the Carlos Arroyo period.
fallenchicken
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This sounds reasonable. It's not that anyone has a problem with the cheering at the start. But cheering him when he scores is dirty. What if he hadn't air-balled the game winner, would they have cheered him?
7StraightIsGreat
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Cope Wrote:
Well, the fact that he was able to come in late in the game and get Loveridge from West Jordan should dispell the myths about his recruiting abilities. Loveridge is a top 100 recruit and the fact that he bought in enough to what Larry K. has had to say is a pretty big feather in Larry's recruiting cap IMO.
Tommy Connor is a great recruiter, especially with the local kids. So in short, Coach K does have assistants with strong recruiting skills (especially locally).
No offense, but the fact that Utah was able to sway Loveridge away from BYU shows me that Utah isn't simply going to lay down and lose every recruiting battle against. BYU. You're making some pretty big assumptions there.
That's your opinion and that's just fine. My opinion is that snagging Loveridge is a huge coup for the Utes and a sign of things to come in future recruting battles. I'm also the opinion that even though Utah has been awful, I think they've surpassed many expectations considering that before the season started, Coach K had to deal with his best big man Foster being injured for the majority of the season and then later having to kick off possibly his best player in Jiggy Watson. If you would have told me those things would have happened headed into this season, I'd have had serious doubts that Utah would win 1 single game.
Yes, the Pac is having a down year, but you lose all credibility if you honestly think that the Big Sky Conference is better from top to bottom. And while the Pac will most likely improve, so will Utah.
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I can't understand why you are playing the Duke and North Carolina cards. I never included them in what I felt Utah's program could be 2 to 3 years from now. My entire argument is that they could possibly catch BYU by that time. The fact that you decided to ignore that and tried to point out that they won't be a national power when nobody is saying that they will be makes me believe you're not too confident in where BYU will be when compared to Utah in a few short years.
Fishonjazz Wrote:
A few things: Utah has won 7 out of 10 meetings (with a few coming in blow out fashion), the fact that with each year, Utah is getting closer to getting full TV money from the PAC 12 that will easily out distance what BYU is pulling in from their ESPN deal, the fact that come this Wednesday, Utah has their first real chance at landing their very first Top 25 recruiting class while BYU will be stuck somewhere in the 40's or lower doesn't show me that BYU "isn't really looking up at the Utes in football". As a matter of fact, every single trend shows the EXAT opposite.
Did they "turn down" BCS conferences or did they refuse to let go of BYUtv as a bargaining chip and were simply told "no" by the conferences they were in discussions with? Guess it all boils down to how you want to spin it.
Lot's of wins against NMSU, Idaho, Idaho St. and the like must have you very excited. As as far as lots of exposure? Those 8:00 PM time slots on ESPN in late November against WAC and Big Sky schools have to be great for exposure. I'm absolutely certain that east coasters are staying up until 1am so they can watch BYU play the New Mexico State Aggies on ESPN 8 "The Ocho". Awesome exposure. Not to mention the clamourings there must be by the masses around the world to watch replays of the BYU-Idaho game on BYUtv. Again, HUGE exposure for you there.
I'm sure you love to get into a BCS game, but it's not happening. Enjoy your 9-10 seasons, yearly trips to the Armed Forces and Kraft Fight Hunger bowls and all of that awesome exposure you're getting. And you better be careful what you wish for. If the independent schedule continues to get stronger, BYU goes from an annual 10 win team to more like 6 or 7.
Well, the fact that he was able to come in late in the game and get Loveridge from West Jordan should dispell the myths about his recruiting abilities. Loveridge is a top 100 recruit and the fact that he bought in enough to what Larry K. has had to say is a pretty big feather in Larry's recruiting cap IMO.
Tommy Connor is a great recruiter, especially with the local kids. So in short, Coach K does have assistants with strong recruiting skills (especially locally).
No offense, but the fact that Utah was able to sway Loveridge away from BYU shows me that Utah isn't simply going to lay down and lose every recruiting battle against. BYU. You're making some pretty big assumptions there.
That's your opinion and that's just fine. My opinion is that snagging Loveridge is a huge coup for the Utes and a sign of things to come in future recruting battles. I'm also the opinion that even though Utah has been awful, I think they've surpassed many expectations considering that before the season started, Coach K had to deal with his best big man Foster being injured for the majority of the season and then later having to kick off possibly his best player in Jiggy Watson. If you would have told me those things would have happened headed into this season, I'd have had serious doubts that Utah would win 1 single game.
Yes, the Pac is having a down year, but you lose all credibility if you honestly think that the Big Sky Conference is better from top to bottom. And while the Pac will most likely improve, so will Utah.
Thriller Wrote:
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I can't understand why you are playing the Duke and North Carolina cards. I never included them in what I felt Utah's program could be 2 to 3 years from now. My entire argument is that they could possibly catch BYU by that time. The fact that you decided to ignore that and tried to point out that they won't be a national power when nobody is saying that they will be makes me believe you're not too confident in where BYU will be when compared to Utah in a few short years.
Fishonjazz Wrote:
A few things: Utah has won 7 out of 10 meetings (with a few coming in blow out fashion), the fact that with each year, Utah is getting closer to getting full TV money from the PAC 12 that will easily out distance what BYU is pulling in from their ESPN deal, the fact that come this Wednesday, Utah has their first real chance at landing their very first Top 25 recruiting class while BYU will be stuck somewhere in the 40's or lower doesn't show me that BYU "isn't really looking up at the Utes in football". As a matter of fact, every single trend shows the EXAT opposite.
Did they "turn down" BCS conferences or did they refuse to let go of BYUtv as a bargaining chip and were simply told "no" by the conferences they were in discussions with? Guess it all boils down to how you want to spin it.
Lot's of wins against NMSU, Idaho, Idaho St. and the like must have you very excited. As as far as lots of exposure? Those 8:00 PM time slots on ESPN in late November against WAC and Big Sky schools have to be great for exposure. I'm absolutely certain that east coasters are staying up until 1am so they can watch BYU play the New Mexico State Aggies on ESPN 8 "The Ocho". Awesome exposure. Not to mention the clamourings there must be by the masses around the world to watch replays of the BYU-Idaho game on BYUtv. Again, HUGE exposure for you there.
I'm sure you love to get into a BCS game, but it's not happening. Enjoy your 9-10 seasons, yearly trips to the Armed Forces and Kraft Fight Hunger bowls and all of that awesome exposure you're getting. And you better be careful what you wish for. If the independent schedule continues to get stronger, BYU goes from an annual 10 win team to more like 6 or 7.
I will only comment on Loveridge, since thats what I know. Loveridge wanted 2 things out of the school he was going to go to; immediate PT and a "major conference". He was ONLY offered by one team in a major conference (not necessarily quality of competition) and that was Utah. His other offers were BYU, Colo St, Utah St and Weber. BYU has Davies for another year and added depth at the 3-4 positions as JLove is a tweener. Real simple. Not exactly a coup, but the kid is good. You can debate me on this all you want but lets just say I'm "connected" in this regard.
Doesn't this belong in another forum, BTW?