Ford Mock 4.0- Joel embiid

[Fabtrey]

7fter with back problems? that's a red flag for me. i want a safest pick as possible. we can't afford to gamble when there is so many damn good players ready to contribute immediately.

 

[Fabtrey]

He has one of the highest ceiling for any one in the league. When your game looks that much like the Dream at times you can be an all-time great.

his offensive game looks nothing like dream. that's blasphemy.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

his offensive game looks nothing like dream. that's blasphemy.

I was just watching Embiid highlights during halftime of the Rockets game after watching the first half of the Rockets/Blazers. Embiid actually reminds me a lot Dwight Howard. Hard to know if he will ever be as strong as Dwight, but at similar stages they don't look much different. Embiid has a softer touch than Dwight does even today.

 

[Fishsticks]

Chads chat quotes

Ron (Orlando)

Are the Magic the team that is highest on Exum? Seems that way based on mock drafts.
Chad Ford (1:14 PM)

They want a point guard. They experimented with Victor Oladipo there, but preferably they get a young player that is more of a true point. Exum and Marcus Smart are the guys for them. They would've taken Smart No. 2 last year, but I think Exum has moved ahead. Lakers also really like Exum. So do the Jazz and Bucks.

Marc (SLC)

Why does every draft simulation with the Jazz in the top 2 have them taking Parker? Would they not take Wiggins if they had the opportunity?
Chad Ford (1:15 PM)

I don't think the front office has figured out what they are doing yet. So much depends on where they land in the lottery. Wiggins, Parker and Embiid would all be in the mix for No. 1. However, there would be a ton of pressure in Utah for them to take Parker and given the teams' trajectory (they really don't need more raw young players) Parker's ability to play right away and have an impact make sense for them. I think they are, far and away, the team most likely to take Parker No. 1.

Spalding ((work))

Lots of chatter about the Jazz possibly hiring Ettore Messina as head coach. Thoughts?
Chad Ford (1:57 PM)

Would be a great get. I've been a big fan of coach Messina's. I know Dennis Lindsay and Justin Zanik both have connections. An interesting choice but a good one I think.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

7fter with back problems? that's a red flag for me. i want a safest pick as possible. we can't afford to gamble when there is so many damn good players ready to contribute immediately.

That's the question. I don't remember if I've posted it already, but I don't get Embiid at #4. If he's healthy, he's #1 overall - at worst, #2. If he does indeed have back problems, he should probably outside the top 15 - you don't want any part of a big man with back, foot or knee issues. We've seen Borchardt, Bowie, Oden, etc - it doesn't turn out well.

 

[mfree]

I'm not sure the Jazz trade Favors for anything outside the top 3, I would highly doubt it in fact.

Jazz are not trading Favors for anyone in the top three either.

Some of you guys are really funny.

 

[zbone]

Jazz are not trading Favors for anyone in the top three either.

Some of you guys are really funny.

If we are talking top three this year then sure thing they don't. Whoever will be in top three will drop the phone laughing at this offer.

 

[addictionary]

For all the discussion around the number 4 pick, it is the second LEAST probable outcome:

37% ... pick 5
18% ... pick 6
12% ... pick 3
11% ... pick 2
10% ... pick 1
9.9% ... pick 4
1.2% ... pick 7

The only way we get the fourth pick is if NOBODY jumps into the top 3 (top 3 goes to Philly, Milwaukee and Orlando in any order) and the odds of that happening are <10%. This has happened only one time in 20 years (1996).

Reality sucks. Believe in miracles.

 

[Getting Traded]

We shouldn't even think about trading either at this point. As Kanter himself said, they haven't had enough time on the court together to develop chemistry. Let's see how things play out with a new coach, and then assess what to do next.

 

[silesian]

This is so strange. So basically we have a slightly better chance at winning the lottery vs. getting the #4 pick. That makes no sense.

Statistically, it makes perfect sense the way the lottery is designed.

If the Jazz win the lottery, they get a top 3 pick
If Magic, Bucks and Sixers ALL win the lottery, they get the #4 pick (unlikely)
If one team (5+) jumps into the top 3, the Jazz get the #5
If two teams (5+) jump into the top 3, the Jazz get #6
If three teams (5+) jump into the top 3, the Jazz get #7

Maybe you are arguing that the way the lottery is designed makes no sense. It was done this way so there was randomness for the top 3 picks, but the worst teams cannot drop too far. Tricky balance, crazy system, somewhat confusing.