Free Agent Rumors Thread

[Coach Ellis]

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Marc J. Spears
‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Heat prez Pat Riley and coach Erik Spoelstra flew to NC to meet with Jazz free agent forward Marvin Williams yesterday, a source told Yahoo.

Marvin Williams would be a decent pickup for their depth. I can see that being a good fit for both sides. It'll be interesting to see what his next contract looks like. I think he's better coming off the bench for his next team.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

I've resigned myself to becoming a broken-record...

We need perimeter defenders. I still want Marcus Smart: S&T Hayward, add Burke, get Smart. Then, sign Bazemore. Then, sign Aminu.

Exum/Smart/Neto
Smart/Burks/Bazemore
Hood/Bazemore/Aminu
Kanter/Aminu/Evans/Novak
Favors/Gobert

A three-guard rotation of Exum, Smart, and Burks could beat the hell outta people.

I don't disagree but I am very hopeful that Quin will be very good emphasizing strong team defense.

Having said that, I think we all agree the three-ball is huge nowadays too. 36% was the league average last year. I think it would be interesting to look up which players shot at or above 36% last year who are considered above average defenders. Seems like something up your alley tbh.

 

[NUMBERICA]

We need perimeter defenders.

We're one on this point.

(I'm not sure Exum, Smart, and Burks would work very well, however. I like actual point guards, and the Jazz would have three combo guards that probably wouldn't harmoniously share their minutes/shots/spots in the rotation. Although I have had the identical idea of Burke + Hayward S/T for Smart.)

 

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I've resigned myself to becoming broken-hearted...

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We're one on this point.

(I'm not sure Exum, Smart, and Burks would work very well, however. I like actual point guards, and the Jazz would have three combo guards that probably wouldn't harmoniously share their minutes/shots/spots in the rotation. Although I have had the identical idea of Burke + Hayward S/T for Smart.)

I don't see any reason why we can't call Exum a full-on PG. I also don't see any reason why we can't call Burks a full-on SG. I don't see any reason why we can't call Smart a pitbull.

 

[Twin Towers]

Why do I keep hearing people post about Aminu. The guy sucks. He can barely dribble and he cannot shoot. No post moves. No play making ability. He is long and can rebound well for the SF position. THAT IS IT. He is pathetic at the 3 and the 4. If he could shoot. He could be effective at the 3 or the 4. But he hasn't improved ANYTHING in his game since coming to the league. Give up on the dude. He sucks.

 

[Twin Towers]

We will not be trading for Smart. Its not going to happen. Marcus Smart is similar to Lance Stephenson. They both don't fit the team oriented basketball we need. They are loose cannons who put their emotions and selfish desires to be THE GUY..... ahead of the team.
Sad part is both of these players have so much talent. But they will always stay mediocre because of the own lack of self discipline.
Unless Snyder is the next Zen Master. We won't be dealing with these types of players.

 

[Game6Conley]

He can barely dribble.

Not True. You are mistaken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gtwyWD3rgA

 

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LOL at comparing Lance and Marcus.

 

[Twin Towers]

Not True. You are mistaken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gtwyWD3rgA

Showing a straight line dribble doesn't really show anything..........lol

The point I am making is you can't depend on him to dribble through traffic and break down the defense.
Barely being able to dribble is a for sure an exaggeration. But on contrast with other wing players. He doesn't do that well.

And lets just say he is amazing at that. Which I have seen him lose the ball a lot through traffic.

The fact is he can't shoot. and he is not strong enough and he doesn't have any post moves.
He won't be in the league much longer if he never gets a shot.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Is Tomic coming over? What's the word on that? If not, I sort of like Cy's call on Ayon. My problem with that though is he reminds me of Gobert and I want Gobert getting burn, preferably 20 minutes a night, and I think the minutes would get tricky for our bigs then.

Favors (32), Kanter (28), Gobert (20), Novak (16) is already 96 minutes so I'm just not sure where Ayon would fit in but I do like him.

Right now, if we do match on Hayward, I'm curious where we, as members, then see our biggest holes?

The Jazz are likely waiting on Hayward to be resolved before announcing anything. They want to use that big pool of cash to discourage suitors.

 

[CALJAZZFAN]

Why do I keep hearing people post about Aminu. The guy sucks. He can barely dribble and he cannot shoot. No post moves. No play making ability. He is long and can rebound well for the SF position. THAT IS IT. He is pathetic at the 3 and the 4. If he could shoot. He could be effective at the 3 or the 4. But he hasn't improved ANYTHING in his game since coming to the league. Give up on the dude. He sucks.

All true. He really isn't very good and is one dimensional.

 

[Game6Conley]

Showing a straight line dribble doesn't really show anything..........lol

The point I am making is you can't depend on him to dribble through traffic and break down the defense.
Barely being able to dribble is a for sure an exaggeration. But on contrast with other wing players. He doesn't do that well.

And lets just say he is amazing at that. Which I have seen him lose the ball a lot through traffic.

The fact is he can't shoot. and he is not strong enough and he doesn't have any post moves.
He won't be in the league much longer if he never gets a shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Wrhg00ZBc

Your claim that he cant dribble is baseless though, hes not a 1 trick pony. he's plenty capable of grabbing a rebound and dribbling it up the floor.

His Turnovers went down this year, he has a positive Ast/To Ratio. Hes going to get paid a pittance and he'd be our best option defensively vs many matchups.

The Jazz were defending Kevin Durant with Mike Harris at the start of last season. IDK why anyone would complain about Aminu, what are the better low cost defensive options at SF ?

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Wrhg00ZBc

Your claim that he cant dribble is baseless though, hes not a 1 trick pony. he's plenty capable of grabbing a rebound and dribbling it up the floor.

His Turnovers went down this year, he has a positive Ast/To Ratio. Hes going to get paid a pittance and he'd be our best option defensively vs many matchups.

The Jazz were defending Kevin Durant with Mike Harris at the start of last season. IDK why anyone would complain about Aminu, what are the better low cost defensive options at SF ?

I don't know why people don't understand the value in getting Aminu. There was just a 15+ page thread about Novak, for ****'s sake... do you think there is a bigger one-trick pony in the NBA than Novak? Do you realize that Aminu will command roughly the same number of dollars? Do you understand that he helps us in our area of greatest need?

What the **** am I missing??

 

[Doc Cherno]

I don't why people don't understand the value in getting Aminu. There was just a 15+ page thread about Novak, for ****'s sake... do you think there is a bigger one-trick pony in the NBA than Novak? Do you realize that Aminu will command roughly the same number of dollars? Do you understand that he helps us in our area of greatest need?

What the **** am I missing??

Your meds?

I think we'll be in WAITONHAYWARD mode before anything else gets done that ties up cash...

 

[Jeffrey32]

With the trade for Novak, I think Utah is out of the Ryan Kelly pursuit. While Kelly's defensive skills are WAY better, offensively there is too much overlap.

 

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Your meds?

I think we'll be in WAITONHAYWARD mode before anything else gets done that ties up cash...

Nope. I'm high as **** right now, sitting in my gym shorts, in the shade of a big avocado tree.

 

[Doc Cherno]

Nope. I'm high as **** right now, sitting in my gym shorts, in the shade of a big avocado tree.

You have size huge avocados, sir...

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

I am not a big Aminu fan based on his offensive inadequacies but if I'm being honest, I haven't seen him play much and really don't know much about him other than what PGAB and [sized] have been preaching. If he is cheap and is as good as they're advertising on defense, he probably makes a lot of sense.

Off the cuff, an Exum, Burks, Aminu, Novak, Gobert lineup would be interesting. Exum and Burks penetrating like crazy drawing defenders, Novak standing in the corner for the open-three, finding Aminu cutting where I would think based on his athleticism he could flourish (does he?) like Brewer did here...defensively, as bad as Novak is, we'd have four capable defenders on the floor with him, Aminu defending the best offensive wing and Gobert always behind him as a last defense.

In short, he offers us something we don't yet have (a defensive stopper) and on the cheap. This added roster flexibility is intriguing if I'm Quin. And maybe, just maybe, Quin could get more out of him (better shooting) and he could become our James Posey on the Heat and Celtics runs.

**** it. Aminu or bust!

 

[Game6Conley]

Off the cuff, an Exum, Burks, Aminu, Novak, Gobert lineup would be interesting. Exum and Burks penetrating like crazy drawing defenders, Novak standing in the corner for the open-three, finding Aminu cutting where I would think based on his athleticism he could flourish (does he?) like Brewer did here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckxDfmbllBc
Aminu's plenty athletic for finishing in transition and as a slasher. hes grown since he was drafted too, these days hes basically the same height/wingspan as Favors.