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Game #15 New Orleans Pelicans @ Utah Jazz -- Sat. Nov. 28th @ 7pm MST

gregbroncs said:
Good, I thought Ajinca might get away with it like Hibbert did in the pre season. Glad the officials got that right. Honestly Ingles was the one I thought was questionable, he pushed the guy off of himself but really didn't do anything outside the lines or after the play.
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I thought Ingles initial push and Douglas' retaliation were both not really a big deal. I'm glad Ajinca got the technical.
 
gregbroncs said:
didn't see this game. But it seems that Quin more and more is going with the 3 wing lineup. Looking at the box score it shows that Neto and Burke only combined for 32-33 minutes. Was this because of matchups in this game, Burks good play, or is he starting to favor that lineup more?
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I think it had some to do with trey not being 100%.
Trey was having back spasms
 
DownUnder said:
i think that was more the game before. I have the feeling Quin is determined to stamp out Trey's bad habits by sitting him when he does boneheaded things
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I think it's more just that we can't do what he wants to do defensively with Burke on the floor.
 
DownUnder said:
i think that was more the game before. I have the feeling Quin is determined to stamp out Trey's bad habits by sitting him when he does boneheaded things
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I heard boler during the game saying that trey burke was having back spasms before last night's game.

You could still be right though
 
DownUnder said:
i think that was more the game before. I have the feeling Quin is determined to stamp out Trey's bad habits by sitting him when he does boneheaded things
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What did Trey do that was boneheaded? Both of his TO's was really on Gobert. The first Gobert wasn't in position for the alley oop and on the second Gobert was standing in the way instead of setting a pick or moving out of the way and the ball went off of his leg. He didn't take any poor shots.
 
da ThRONe said:
What did Trey do that was boneheaded? Both of his TO's was really on Gobert. The first Gobert wasn't in position for the alley oop and on the second Gobert was standing in the way instead of setting a pick or moving out of the way and the ball went off of his leg. He didn't take any poor shots.
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I know you are a homer and all but during that 3rd quarter he almost airballed a long two point shot after dribbling for 12 seconds which led to a fast break bucket the other way, and he had 3 bad TO's that also led to buckets. Were up 20 points and only a couple minutes later we were up 10 points. Allot of that was treys fault.
I know you wont see it that way and apparently think that 2 of his 3 turnovers were goberts fault but everyone else would disagree with you on that.
 
fishonjazz said:
I know you are a homer and all but during that 3rd quarter he almost airballed a long two point shot after dribbling for 12 seconds which led to a fast break bucket the other way, and he had 3 bad TO's that also led to buckets. Were up 20 points and only a couple minutes later we were up 10 points. Allot of that was treys fault.
I know you wont see it that way and apparently think that 2 of his 3 turnovers were goberts fault but everyone else would disagree with you on that.
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First he only had 2 TO's the whole night not 3. Trey +/- was +4 so the idea he gave up the lead is ridiculous. The hate for the guy is none stop. He makes mistakes so does everybody on the team, yet only Burke should sit for "boneheaded" plays. Nevermind he's moving the ball well playing with guys incapable of finishing. When Burke makes mistakes I have no problems saying so. Some people here just have it set to aim their issues with the team on Trey for some unknown reason.
 
Burke has been much better than expected this year. He's not the reason that this team has struggled in close or bad games. Slow starts, poor bench play and our top shooters being cold have all been bigger issues than Trey Burke.
 
da ThRONe said:
First he only had 2 TO's the whole night not 3. Trey +/- was +4 so the idea he gave up the lead is ridiculous. The hate for the guy is none stop. He makes mistakes so does everybody on the team, yet only Burke should sit for "boneheaded" plays. Nevermind he's moving the ball well playing with guys incapable of finishing. When Burke makes mistakes I have no problems saying so. Some people here just have it set to aim their issues with the team on Trey for some unknown reason.
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Dude i admire your belief on your boy but the reality has to get to you at some point doesn't it ?? I don't have much issue with him anymore now that he's not leading the team in shot attempts while choosing such stupid shots. Playing under control he's a good backup.
 
da ThRONe said:
First he only had 2 TO's the whole night not 3. Trey +/- was +4 so the idea he gave up the lead is ridiculous. The hate for the guy is none stop. He makes mistakes so does everybody on the team, yet only Burke should sit for "boneheaded" plays. Nevermind he's moving the ball well playing with guys incapable of finishing. When Burke makes mistakes I have no problems saying so. Some people here just have it set to aim their issues with the team on Trey for some unknown reason.
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Ya I guess it was only two to's
Here was my play by play of burke during that stretch while watching the game
fishonjazz said:
Hayward bad turnover.
Trey with the foul that should have been a clear path. (Jazz got lucky there) then Hayward left Douglas open for the three.

Beginning of the collapse?
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fishonjazz said:
Trey almost with an airball leading to a Davis dunk in transition
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fishonjazz said:
Trey turnover, fast break for New Orleans resulting in two Davis free throws
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fishonjazz said:
Trey dribbles the ball around against tight defense for 12 seconds and then turns it over leading to New Orleans fast break and Davis with two more free throws
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fishonjazz said:
10-0 run for New Orleans.
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DownUnder said:
Dude i admire your belief on your boy but the reality has to get to you at some point doesn't it ?? I don't have much issue with him anymore now that he's not leading the team in shot attempts while choosing such stupid shots. Playing under control he's a good backup.
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What reality? The one you choose to believe or me or any other poster? It's not even a matter of belief or disbelief in Trey's abilities. I think posters here often times are unfair and/or inaccurate with their criticism of Burke.
 
fishonjazz said:
Ya I guess it was only two to's
Here was my play by play of burke during that stretch while watching the game
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Yeah I watch the game today for the first time so the action is fresh in my head. If you have a chance rewatch that stretch with Trey's TO's. The first came off what was a pretty good drive. The defense collapsed on Trey and he was going to throw it to Rudy, but Rudy wasn't looking(my guess is he figured Trey was shooting and he was looking for a potential rebound). By the time Rudy started looking Trey got caught in the air and the defense close off the passing lane. On the second turnover Trey dribble the ball out close to mid court to reset the offense. Gobert came out like he was going to set a screen, but never did he just stood outside the three point line so Trey dribble towards him (again I'm assuming he was thinking Rudy would set a screen) and Rudy never set the screen or moved out of the way. So Trey went behind the back with the dribble and the ball bounced off Rudy's leg.

I may have become the resident Trey apologist, but I've been critical of him when I think his play has warrant it. It just that most of the posters here are so critical I find myself trying to add some balance to the discussion. You are one of the more fair posters on the board. Even though you are the resident Alec apologist.
 
da ThRONe said:
Yeah I watch the game today for the first time so the action is fresh in my head. If you have a chance rewatch that stretch with Trey's TO's. The first came off what was a pretty good drive. The defense collapsed on Trey and he was going to throw it to Rudy, but Rudy wasn't looking(my guess is he figured Trey was shooting and he was looking for a potential rebound). By the time Rudy started looking Trey got caught in the air and the defense close off the passing lane. On the second turnover Trey dribble the ball out close to mid court to reset the offense. Gobert came out like he was going to set a screen, but never did he just stood outside the three point line so Trey dribble towards him (again I'm assuming he was thinking Rudy would set a screen) and Rudy never set the screen or moved out of the way. So Trey went behind the back with the dribble and the ball bounced off Rudy's leg.

I may have become the resident Trey apologist, but I've been critical of him when I think his play has warrant it. It just that most of the posters here are so critical I find myself trying to add some balance to the discussion. You are one of the more fair posters on the board. Even though you are the resident Alec apologist.
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Nm
 
da ThRONe said:
Pardon my ignorance, but what does "Nm" mean? My guess was nevermind. However I don't think that is a fitting response.
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Ya nevermind.
I originally posted some stuff and decided I didn't want to anymore.

Can't delete a post on the app, only edit it so I just put nm.
 
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