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Game Thread: Clippers @ Jazz. 7 PM MT in SLC!!!

millspa looked bad? he took 9 shots had 13 points 8 rebounds 3 assist 1 block 1 steal 2 turnovers and 5 fouls( if he had less fouls he would have been more aggressive), busted his gut playing D

yeah millsap looked bad. really bad.

wait what is the definition of bad again? cus i'm confused with english

Goddamn, man. Get off sap's nut sack. Griffin simply owned Sap. Nothing new here.
 
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I think he wanted to sit Jefferson more but every time Jefferson sat LA made a run.

I think that's a bit of a stretch. For example, he never tried running Kanter with the starters, so your statement has no clear causation.

I think it is safe to say that while Al played well in most of his minutes, he was mishandled a handful of times. That's all it takes.
 
Even though I only watched the 2nd quarter, I can vouch for this.
In the span that Milsap was in, Milsap got manhandled by Blake Griffin at minimum 3 times on defense when he was isolated against Griffin and Sap had nothing against Griffin offensively other than one move. Sap didn't want to draw a 3rd foul and it was terrible to watch. We're talking about defense worse than Big Al and Boozer combined here.

It was brutal. This team is talented, but IMO the coaching isn't doing it any favors. The biggest issues I'm seeing is that the Jazz do not know who they are. What is their identity?
 
I think that's a bit of a stretch. For example, he never tried running Kanter with the starters, so your statement has no clear causation.

I think it is safe to say that while Al played well in most of his minutes, he was mishandled a handful of times. That's all it takes.


+1. Al played well and honestly, as frustrating as it is to watch him hold the ball and kill the offense (assuming that we have an offense), he keeps us in games most of the time. Tonight was all coaching.
 
I haven't seen as many games as I'd like to have seen, but Al has been used better this year. But, as tonight's game clearly demonstrates, the devil is in the mother-****ing details. It's ****ty when, as Joe Fan, i see these details all too clearly.
 
It's guaranteed tomorrow Locke will say cliche crap like Griffin, Paul, and Billups made big shots down the stretch while we don't have "that star", or experience, or whatever.

What tonight proved more than anything is we don't have a half court offense we can depend on. We can get by with the break and offensive rebounding, but until we have a real half court offense we'll never win games like this, and we especially won't win in the playoffs.
 
On the positive side, Mo looked like a real PG tonight. I'm tempted to say it was because we played the Clippers, but I'd like to think he found something.
 
Offense actually looked great in the 1st quarter, although the success was not in the half court so much as tempo. We kept the Clippers scrambling moving the ball quickly or resetting effectively with the PnR. But in the late 3rd, the Clips manned up. That was when we needed a real half court offense which of course we don't have.
 
On the lighter side, Evans 17 foot jumper in the 2nd brought a huge smile to my face. Despite some defensive lapses, he played well.
 
Burks was disappointing. In Jazzland, that means we won't see him for the next 7 games. I don't know how I feel about that.
 
It was brutal. This team is talented, but IMO the coaching isn't doing it any favors. The biggest issues I'm seeing is that the Jazz do not know who they are. What is their identity?

You can't really have an identity if your starting lineup are all free agents next year, IMO. There needs to be some sense of a core within the team. All the top teams have it- Clippers, Spurs, Memphis, Heat, hell even the Knicks with Melo and Chandler.

This is the problem, our core- if we have one- consists of Jefferson and Milsap and that's about it. Those two are the only constants who get 30+ minutes night in and night out for sure and have been here. But Milsap's future is up in the air. Jefferson's PnR and help defense makes me want to punch babies. Favors is clearly the best big man we have and he can't get more than 25 minutes on the floor at a time. Even with that, he's stuck helping the helper out because the other players rely on him to clean their mistakes up.

If this Jazz team is going to have any sort of an identity, at the VERY least Hayward and Favors need to be in the starting lineup and need to be relied on even if they lose games because of it, it will help in the sense of an identity because right now the guys getting 30+ minutes are all very likely to not be here next year (Mo, Sap, Jefferson, Foye, Marvin) and they know it.
 
He outplayed CP3, IMO

My question is why cant he pass like that every game and look to get teammates going? Why does he only do this when CP3 is in town and has something to prove? Everything else he did tonight is his usual game.
 
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To say the bench was horrendous in the 2nd half is an understatement. Man they were horrid.

This team needs Favors back in the worst way.
 
On another note Dick Bavetta is the worst ref in NBA history. The fact he continues to hold his job is absolutely stunning. In any real industry he would have been fired long ago.
 
On another note Dick Bavetta is the worst ref in NBA history. The fact he continues to hold his job is absolutely stunning. In any real industry he would have been fired long ago.

Can't agree more. He seems to be so full of himself. He is the Dennis Rodman of refs. He isn't good for the game.
 
Bad officiating, sure. But the Jazz just blew it. Just stupid late game play. So many poor decisions. I think this is something that lands squarely on the shoulders of the head coach. The team was not prepared, and has not been prepared all year, for these late game, late quarter situations. I think a Sloan coached team would have had a better game plan at the end of a game like this.

Yea, SLoan was undefeated when he coached the Jazz. There were plenty of times when the Jazz couldn't get a play off with Sloan coaching. The Jazz didn't lose on one play last night. They lost because they didn't execute many plays down the stretch while the Clippers made the plays when it counted. Was it Ty 's fault that AJ got blocked? Was it Ty's fault that the ref called a foul instead of a flop when Billups got "fouled" on his 3pt shoot. The Jazz had these guys on the ropes and couldn't put them away so the lost is on the team.
 
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