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GAME THREAD PRE-SEASON VS SUNS 8PM MT

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fishonjazz said:
Off topic but damn, just saw blake griffins line from last night.
26 minutes, 10-13 from the field, 2-3 from three point, 2-2 from the line. 24 points on 13 shots, 8 rebounds and 5 assists, +/- of +20.
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I feel like griffin does this every preseason, maybe doc just needs to release him... otherwise I'm not too worried
 
Gobert looked great. However he still has a tough time securing lose balls. Could've had more bords. He needs to keep the ball over his head. Far to often he'd bring it down and get stripped.
 
I read some Suns blogger tweet that Exum couldn't hang with Booker.

Exum is discovering he can't hang with Booker.
— Dave King (@DaveKingNBA) October 6, 2016
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then when Zach Harper challenged him, he stated as a reason for his tweet that Booker had 7 pts in the first 8 minutes.

So I watched the game to see what all the fuss was about. LOL. How are those people being PAID to talk about basketball? HOW? Dante finished 2/4 for 5pts, 4ast in just 13 mins and was blowing past Booker on a whim on O. Can you guess how many of the 7 pts of Booker in the first 8 minutes were with Dante guarding him? Yep you guessed it - ZERO. Booker had 0 pts with Exum guarding him until the end of the second quarter, when he made his sweet baseline move... for which I give him props, especially finishing with Gobert around the basket. But that doesn't change that Booker had absolutely nothing going while Exum was guarding him. They tried to post him up against Dante. LOL! 4 times!!! Earl Watson might not be a particularly smart coach after all... The first time he tried turnaround jumper with Exum in his face. I don't think he expected the length... bad miss. The second time Booker tried to establish position on the left block at around 12 feet... Dante bodied him out to the 3p line. LOL... FAIL. 3d time they called a foul on Exum on the entry pass(good call). 4th time they called another foul on Dante on the Booker move to the inside which was a horrible call. There was no foul at all and was perfectly defended by Exum. All in all, Booker was 1/3 for 2 pts for the whole time Exum was on him. Yeah, sure... he can't hang. Let the fiesta of delusion continue...
 
An interesting stat study would be game attendance to FT percentage, meaning does the volume of the crowd affect player's FT's? Just a thought I had since the Phoenix arena was basically empty and Gobert looked like Steve Nash from the FT line. Certainly it wouldn't have an affect for a lot of players shots, but I wouldn't be surprised if it affected some players. A better study (but much harder to obtain the necessary information) would be the decibel volume to FT percentage.
 
Judging by this one definitive pre-season game we are going to win 64 games this season. Gobert will average 25 pts, 16 rebs, 5 blocks and 14 turnovers per game.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Judging by this one definitive pre-season game we are going to win 64 games this season. Gobert will average 25 pts, 16 rebs, 5 blocks and 14 turnovers per game.
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I don't about that. There were some positives in the game though.
 
Wondering how much muscle Gobert has gained. He weighed 238 when he was drafted and is now listed at 245 but his arms are way larger now.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
An interesting stat study would be game attendance to FT percentage, meaning does the volume of the crowd affect player's FT's? Just a thought I had since the Phoenix arena was basically empty and Gobert looked like Steve Nash from the FT line. Certainly it wouldn't have an affect for a lot of players shots, but I wouldn't be surprised if it affected some players. A better study (but much harder to obtain the necessary information) would be the decibel volume to FT percentage.
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For an elite FT shooter I doubt it makes any difference but for a fringe FT I bet it's a huge difference.
 
Aftefr watching the game would like to say this about the Jazz, They pass the ball great. Great ball movement makes for exciting basketball to watch. IMO. Only problem with Jazz and it is what I have said all summer and that's they don't have a star to finish off plays. Exum is very talented, Anyone can see this but he is still so raw. More raw then most here want to admit but its true. If he becomes an all star it will take about 5 years. Knowmost don't want to hear this but it is true. So Jazz have a bunch of great role players and No Alpha so they need to make a trade or hope and pray to Joesph Smith that the kid from Utah and at Duke becomes just a star and wins college player of the year(Doubtful on Dukes stacked team)
 
ncoloradojazz said:
Aftefr watching the game would like to say this about the Jazz, They pass the ball great. Great ball movement makes for exciting basketball to watch. IMO. Only problem with Jazz and it is what I have said all summer and that's they don't have a star to finish off plays. Exum is very talented, Anyone can see this but he is still so raw. More raw then most here want to admit but its true. If he becomes an all star it will take about 5 years. Knowmost don't want to hear this but it is true. So Jazz have a bunch of great role players and No Alpha so they need to make a trade or hope and pray to Joesph Smith that the kid from Utah and at Duke becomes just a star and wins college player of the year(Doubtful on Dukes stacked team)
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I think this comes down to the fact that DL have always modelled the Jazz on the 2004 Detroit Championship team which didn't have an Alpha Dog per se... the closest they had was Chauncey Billups who won the Finals MVP that year which was curious because it clearly was a TEAM EFFORT based on DEFENSE. Remember how they defended the Lakers in the Finals that year?!?!


DL prefers to have a consistent team of players with no ego rather than a flash in the pan type of team consisting of players with egos.
 
Billups was known as Mr. Big shot, He was a high school all American and took a couple years to float around before he got it. Great story. That was one team who ever won a title and that's who you would want to model after? Because one of 68 isn't very good numbers? Jazz don't even have anyone close to Billups and Since he mention Pistons Lyles does remind me of Rasheed . close to 7 footers jacking thress but even Lyles is a few years away. Just think the Jazz if they want to take next step would go get a star but they wont and this will be how the jazz are. Jazz ownership is just happy to make playoffs. That's the type of market yall have. Not a city like Boston or LA where making the playoffs simply isn't good enough.

ONE LOVE said:
I think this comes down to the fact that DL have always modelled the Jazz on the 2004 Detroit Championship team which didn't have an Alpha Dog per se... the closest they had was Chauncey Billups who won the Finals MVP that year which was curious because it clearly was a TEAM EFFORT based on DEFENSE. Remember how they defended the Lakers in the Finals that year?!?!


DL prefers to have a consistent team of players with no ego rather than a flash in the pan type of team consisting of players with egos.
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ncoloradojazz said:
Billups was known as Mr. Big shot, He was a high school all American and took a couple years to float around before he got it. Great story. That was one team who ever won a title and that's who you would want to model after? Because one of 68 isn't very good numbers? Jazz don't even have anyone close to Billups and Since he mention Pistons Lyles does remind me of Rasheed . close to 7 footers jacking thress but even Lyles is a few years away. Just think the Jazz if they want to take next step would go get a star but they wont and this will be how the jazz are. Jazz ownership is just happy to make playoffs. That's the type of market yall have. Not a city like Boston or LA where making the playoffs simply isn't good enough.
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Quick question.. are you a Jazz fan ?
 
ncoloradojazz said:
or hope and pray to Joesph Smith that the kid from Utah and at Duke becomes just a star and wins college player of the year(Doubtful on Dukes stacked team)
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Wtf are you talking about here? Why would jazzfanz care about what a player at duke does?

This ain't bluedevilsfanz.com
 
ncoloradojazz said:
Billups was known as Mr. Big shot, He was a high school all American and took a couple years to float around before he got it. Great story. That was one team who ever won a title and that's who you would want to model after? Because one of 68 isn't very good numbers? Jazz don't even have anyone close to Billups and Since he mention Pistons Lyles does remind me of Rasheed . close to 7 footers jacking thress but even Lyles is a few years away. Just think the Jazz if they want to take next step would go get a star but they wont and this will be how the jazz are. Jazz ownership is just happy to make playoffs. That's the type of market yall have. Not a city like Boston or LA where making the playoffs simply isn't good enough.
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Lyles similarities to Rasheed start and end with their ability to shoot the three. An awful comparison.
 
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