Game Thread Preseason Utah Jazz vs LA Clippers 10-10-16

[Handlogten's Heros]

Lucky? How does one even attempt to gauge whether a traditional strip move and it's success is either lucky, intended or purposeful?

I changed my mind above... when you get a steal/strip sometimes you "gamble"... thus get lucky. Exum suffocated him and left no space crawford had to put expose the ball as a result... It wasn't risky at all refs even had a clear shot to see it was all ball.

I don't think he was trying to strip him and think he was just staying right with him and when he saw the ball he reacted perfectly. Could have even gotten the charge on that one too.

This is the most dissected play in preseason history.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Luck is always involved

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[The Fresh Prince]

Please put down the bong and watch the play again sober.

I'm sorry were you trying to aim at gaining likes, rep, a laugh? Exum fell and his hand came downward as a result. I was completely sober. Dante really played like a child out there. He made a lucky move. My final say.

 

[NAOS]

I'm sorry were you trying to aim at gaining likes, rep, a laugh? Exum fell and his hand came downward as a result. I was completely sober. Dante really played like a child out there. He made a lucky move. My final say.

"optometrist". Learn it. Know it.

 

[gregbroncs]

I'm sorry were you trying to aim at gaining likes, rep, a laugh? Exum fell and his hand came downward as a result. I was completely sober. Dante really played like a child out there. He made a lucky move. My final say.

What a ****in stuipid take. 1st off it should have been a charging foul on Crawford as Dante beat him to the spot and was is great defensive position. Second off you can see him reach for and strip the ball cleanly. That was a great play, arguing otherwise is stupid.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

My point was simply that its ok to say good things about a play made during a game in a gamethread and its also ok to say bad things about a play made during a game in a gamethread.
I found it strange that you seemed to have a problem with people saying good things about when exum stopped Crawford on that play.

Nah man I just realize that Exum got bailed out by the lucky strip. Remember those falls are going to start counting soon and possibly costing us games.

 

[sahlensguy]

I'm sorry were you trying to aim at gaining likes, rep, a laugh? Exum fell and his hand came downward as a result. I was completely sober. Dante really played like a child out there. He made a lucky move. My final say.

inal say.
Exum's hand didn't come down thus stripping the ball because he was falling backward. That's silly. He was falling backward and still had the quickness/athleticism/length to strip the ball. That's good.

Crawford even Exum a hand up out of respect. That's proof.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I don't think you understand what luck is. Winning the lottery is luck. There is no way to prepare or practice to win the lottery. However, professional athletes with length, speed, quickness can do things to make themselves better players. Exum has always been a shut down defender since he came into the league. There was no luck involved on that play.

I know what luck is. He put himself in position for the lucky strip. It's luck that he put his hand in exactly the right spot as not to commit a foul and lucky the ref didn't call a foul even though it wasn't a foul


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[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

He was able to be lucky because of the great position he got himself in.


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[Getting Traded]

I'm sorry were you trying to aim at gaining likes, rep, a laugh? Exum fell and his hand came downward as a result. I was completely sober. Dante really played like a child out there. He made a lucky move. My final say.

B.S. He was playing good D all night. That supposed foul on Dante of CP3 was caused by contact initiated by CP3 -- it should've been a charge.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I know what luck is. He put himself in position for the lucky strip. It's luck that he put his hand in exactly the right spot as not to commit a foul and lucky the ref didn't call a foul even though it wasn't a foul


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Then by this same reasoning everything is luck. He made a great play and he has done that fairly routinely.

I think Exum is a pg reincarnation of AK... makes some fantastic defensive plays and passes but will likely always leave you wishing he could do just a little more. I'm excited to watch him grow this year.

 

[candrew]

B.S. He was playing good D all night. That supposed foul on Dante of CP3 was caused by contact initiated by CP3 -- it should've been a charge.

Agreed - Exum's close-outs on perimeter D rotations is superior.

And his instincts aren't even there yet - he's doing it all on length and athletic ability.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Then by this same reasoning everything is luck. He made a great play and he has done that fairly routinely.

I think Exum is a pg reincarnation of AK... makes some fantastic defensive plays and passes but will likely always leave you wishing he could do just a little more. I'm excited to watch him grow this year.

Maybe u realize how hard it is to get your hand square on the ball with the speed of the play. You're moving one way the other another with both hands on the ball. Then don't forget that with the speed of the play it's a bit of a judgment call for the ref seeing the play happen in the blink of an eye.


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[Handlogten's Heros]

Maybe u realize how hard it is to get your hand square on the ball with the speed of the play. You're moving one way the other another with both hands on the ball. Then don't forget that with the speed of the play it's a bit of a judgment call for the ref seeing the play happen in the blink of an eye.


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It isn't easy but I've made that exact play in games... call I luck I guess, but it's not like it's a unicorn.

His lateral movement was great and as stated above the refs could have easily called it a charge.

 

[gregbroncs]

I just rewatched the game. Lost in all of the last play stuff is that the Clippers attacked Exum 1 other time in the last 45 seconds and he forced a TO by Rivers on the other one. He was in great defensive position on that one despite overplaying a little on the initial cut by Rivers. Rivers ended up losing the ball partially because Exum was in such great position. Even if he doesn't lose the ball he's going to be taking a very tough shot.

 

[gregbroncs]

inal say.
Exum's hand didn't come down thus stripping the ball because he was falling backward. That's silly. He was falling backward and still had the quickness/athleticism/length to strip the ball. That's good.

Crawford even Exum a hand up out of respect. That's proof.

Crawford did not help Exum up. He moved over like he was going to then turned his back on Exum as he extended his hand and Bolomboy came over and helped him up. I thought it was kind of a bitch move by Crawford.

 

[Stoked]

I just rewatched the game. Lost in all of the last play stuff is that the Clippers attacked Exum 1 other time in the last 45 seconds and he forced a TO by Rivers on the other one. He was in great defensive position on that one despite overplaying a little on the initial cut by Rivers. Rivers ended up losing the ball partially because Exum was in such great position. Even if he doesn't lose the ball he's going to be taking a very tough shot.

It shows that the jazz can have good to excellent D at the point all game long if they choose. At the rim as well.

 

[sahlensguy]

Crawford did not help Exum up. He moved over like he was going to then turned his back on Exum as he extended his hand and Bolomboy came over and helped him up. I thought it was kind of a bitch move by Crawford.

I didn't think it was a bitch move at all. Crawford extended his hand to Exum. It was like saying 'good play man'. Then Bolomboy came in.

 

[Watcher]

Crawford did not help Exum up. He moved over like he was going to then turned his back on Exum as he extended his hand and Bolomboy came over and helped him up. I thought it was kind of a bitch move by Crawford.

Pretty sure that he started to help him up. I believe he did grab his hand and start to pull him up. Bolomboy came in and grabbed Exum's upper arm and pulled him up from there and Crawford let go at some point in there.

 

[str8line]

I just rewatched the game. Lost in all of the last play stuff is that the Clippers attacked Exum 1 other time in the last 45 seconds and he forced a TO by Rivers on the other one. He was in great defensive position on that one despite overplaying a little on the initial cut by Rivers. Rivers ended up losing the ball partially because Exum was in such great position. Even if he doesn't lose the ball he's going to be taking a very tough shot.

That's right. Rivers seemed to have the jump but Exum blanketed him almost instantly. Exum is insanely quick even when sidestepping.