So you're calling him a liar, then. He said in his interview that he grew up on the East coast and didn't feel any particular connection to BYU.
So again, do you consider all LDS members to be BYU fans?
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So you're calling him a liar, then. He said in his interview that he grew up on the East coast and didn't feel any particular connection to BYU.
So again, do you consider all LDS members to be BYU fans?
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Correct. Though I am not volunteering to do the searches.
UGLI baby
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Other Jeff Benedict articles...
"Bronco took Lavell Edwards advice to heart."
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865587028/Bronco-took-LaVell-Edwards-advice-to-heart.html
"The Real Reason Kyle Van Noy returned for his Senior Season."
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865586590/The-real-reason-Kyle-Van-Noy-returned-for-his-senior-season.html
"The Story of How I learned the Details of Kyle Van Noy's Past"
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865586519/Jeff-Benedict-Van-Noy-to-kids-in-trouble-Its-OK-to-ask-for-help.html?pg=all
Here is a link to all of his articles. Almost all of them are byu puff pieces.
https://www.deseretnews.com/author/22844/Jeff-Benedict.html#1
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He's not a "huge ute fan", he's a "huge Utah Utes fan".
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I'll call him a liar.
You are telling me that a room full of inmates, listened to the story of a boy who drank alcohol, and gave him a standing ovation? I bet they did that while tipping their glasses of beer in his honor.
He publishes a "fact" that the "snitch" is a HUGE Utah Utes fan, even though no one has confirmed it. And what Ute fan calls himself a Utah Utes fan? Come on.
The chants were louder than LES? Wow, LES must suck if that is true.
If this game is "mormons vs mormons" why did Ute fans mock the HC? Oh, that is right, because us "ALUF's" aren't actually "good" mormons.
He mentions he has no ties to either program, yet all of his articles and books are markedly PRO-BYU. He sure takes a couple paragraphs out of his article to show how terrible Ute fans are, when that has NOTHING to do with the article...UNLESS, you are trying to paint Hadley out as the victim here....(pathetic) and show how terrible Utah is and how Utah ruined Hadley's life, even though it was Hadley that was caught drinking.
BYU checked out "so-called booster" Stocking. Did you know that under the NCAA rules, if you have EVER bought tickets to a BYU game you are a booster? So, I'd bet money that if this guy likes BYU athletes enough to fly them on jets and buy them $500 bottles of alcohol and spend the money for some female companionship that he has bought a ticket or two in his lifetime...But he isn't a booster, because a BYU fan/author said so...
Spencer Hadley had gone to Vegas multiple times, drank multiple times, yet a week before the RIVALRY GAME, he decided to come clean, KNOWING that he would be suspended and not be able to play in the rivalry game, EVEN THOUGH HIS DREAM WAS TO BEAT UTAH (as was mentioned earlier in the article). The email just arrived at BYU as he was on his way to talk to Bronco. Yeah, RIGHT.
You are telling me that Ute fans spat, swore, and ripped on the LDS church at RES, when RES is filled mainly with LDS members, including General Authorities? In comparison, I can show you videos of BYU players swearing at Utah fans/players, BYU fans throwing things at refs (multiple games), I can show you photos of BYU fans assaulting Utah coaches family. Did you guys know that after Benedict published the Utah compliance officer's name (remember, she did NOTHING wrong), BYU fans released all her personal information, and harassed her to the point that she completely removed her presence off the internet because she feared for her safety? FUNNY, everything BYU fan says Utah fan does is in reality, everything BYU fan does to Utah fan! NO WONDER APOSTLES ARE GIVING TALKS ABOUT SPORTSMANSHIP! BYU FANS DON'T HAVE IT! (Remember, the Church could care less what happens at Utah. Utah doesn't represent their Church.)
But keep telling yourself it is Ute fan that does those things...
If you read that article and take it seriously...you are a MORON. I'm sorry. You're stupid. That article is an embarrassment to journalism, and BYU fans should hide their heads in shame. But, no, BYU will continue to act like an idiot and tell everyone it is Utah fan's fault. LOL.
Like Kyle said, it is a shame we won't play you guys for two more years...it is nice to have that auto win on the schedule every fall.
green
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Absolutely not. What is pathetic from the BYU side of things, is that you guys can't admit that Utah fans can be GREAT members of the church. We are just second class "ALUF's". That's all right. I'll keep talking to President Uchtdorf at Utah games, and take pride in the fact that this ALUF has done pretty well for himself in the church:
[video=youtube_share;9EYK6J-XuOs]https://youtu.be/9EYK6J-XuOs
Those are basically all excerpts from his recent book. He shadowed Van Noy for a bit. And no, it's not a book about BYU.
https://www.amazon.com/The-System-Scandal-Big-Time-Football/dp/0385536615
You are delusional. That was essentially the point of my previous question--just because someone is a member of the church doesn't automatically make him a BYU fan.
green
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If you read what he has previously wrote and don't believe he has an agenda to push...you are the delusional one. Like I posted above, if you really read this article and think it is fair, balanced, and not pushing one side over another...then the joke's on you.
Duck Rodgers
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Taysom looked good throwing the ball last night. Competition noted, but at least we got to see what he looks like when the O-Line protects him well. He should still be throwing better under duress in bigger games, but it was mildly encouraging. We'll see if any of that transfers over to Utah State. Good week coming up for in-state football.
Precisely.
Oh, I agree--it's clear that he BECAME a BYU fan--apparently BYU fans impressed him whereas Ute fans did not. But he didn't start out with an agenda. At least, I'm willing to take him at his word that that was the case.
You hate BYU and things associated with it. We get it. You can tone it down a bit now.
gregbroncs
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It's also clear that he had a big bias when writing this article. He used well worn and BYU biased cliché's as part of the article and came off as a biased writer with an agenda. Not to mention the Cliché he used was a total lie by the guy who started it (Max Hall).
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Green is maybe taking it too far. But to say he wrote this without a bias is a clear lie. So I do think he is either lying to himself or intentionally lying to try and make a point. I'll say I believe he is lying to make his article credible. Which basically says he is lying with intent.
The Thriller
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Why don't we find out from the horse's mouth whether you can be a good Mormon and be a Ute fan?
In your temple recommend interview, has anyone been asked if they were a Utah or BYU fan? Isn't it after the Word of Wisdom question?
Colton? Anybody?
I'm pretty sure that if you're a Chicago Bulls fan you are automatically excommunicated with absolutely no chance of ever being rebaptized.
In your temple recommend interview, has anyone been asked if they were a Utah or BYU fan? Isn't it after the Word of Wisdom question?
Colton? Anybody?
I'm pretty sure that if you're a Chicago Bulls fan you are automatically excommunicated with absolutely no chance of ever being rebaptized.
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He was probably lying abouy not being a byu fan but that doesn't make the article untrue.
Maybe these select inmates were in fact touched by the discussions at the fireside and did infact cheer the byu team as a way to thank them for thier time and service
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Alright, I finally read that Benedict piece. ****ing LOLed the whole time. The chanting, the crying on Bronco's shoulder, all that ******** about redemption by blasting others with your meekness, etc. High-level comedy right thar.
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So basically ute fans think a story making byu look good is all BS and byu fans think it may be accurate?..... shocker
So your attitude is just to call everyone liars? Max Hall must have lied about the beer. This guy must have lied about the beer. I'm not sure if you're also one of the ones calling him a liar about the prison incident, but if so then that's just one more thing you can't accept as reality (despite it being easily falsifiable).
Maybe, just maybe, you should open your mind a bit.