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Cy said:
Yeah, that is probably what SVG wants. He doesn't want to start 3 big men. He wants less big men and more shooters to surround Drummond with. I don't think he really cares that much about Monroe or Smith.
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Detroit might have liked Trey Burke too at one point. Not sure if that's the case now.
 
Catchall said:
So the Jazz are now 5-12, which was the best-case scenario that David Locke predicted. The Jazz have had a few spurts where they play with some energy and intensity. They just can't sustain it.
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I don't really mind the loses, I just hate the early blowouts.
 
Cy said:
OKC seems like the team that could use Kanter the most. I would take their 1st round pick for Kanter.

He could provide some scoring off the bench. That is about the only team I think could use him.

https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=nuuksjg

Save OKC some money too. I know their owner is cheap.
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I'd think about that deal too. OKC will probably end up a 7th or 8th seed, but in the Western Conf., that might be a pick around #18. I just think the Jazz won't pay much to keep Kanter.
 
Catchall said:
I'd think about that deal too. OKC will probably end up a 7th or 8th seed, but in the Western Conf., that might be a pick around #18.
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OKC is going to turn it on. They will be better than a 7th or 8th seed. Westbrook is back and already killing it.
 
Cy said:
I also present to you the "Give Trout a Heart Attack Trade"

https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=meep2g9

Brooklyn is tired of losing a butt ton of cash.

D-Will takes Favors to the next level with his PNR skills. Hayward gets another playmaker to help him out. I get my old name Dwill_PwnasaurusRex back.
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Yeah, I think that would be wildly unpopular and a significant step backwards for the team. You think Jerry Sloan would sit in the stands and watch DWill play with the Jazz?

#awkward
 
Catchall said:
Yeah, I think that would be wildly unpopular and a significant step backwards for the team. You think Jerry Sloan would sit in the stands and watch DWill play with the Jazz?

#awkward
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I think it would be a great trade for us, especially if we didn't have to give up any draft picks. Dwill is still a great player and I think Quin's offense really fits his skill set.
 
Cy said:
I think it would be a great trade for us, especially if we didn't have to give up any draft picks. Dwill is still a great player and I think Quin's offense really fits his skill set.
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The Heat could use Kanter, I think. Birdman is in his mid-30s, and they just signed Hassan Whiteside.

I'd do it for a washed up player and their 1st-round pick.
 
What do you guys think about this trade?

https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p7ak3u7

Spurs get the problem players so they can work on improving them and turning them into great players while being able to unload one of their worst players, Pistons get 2 expirings along with an actual SF they can run instead of the horrifying 3 big lineup of Smith/Monroe/Drummond they have now, Hawks get an interior defender to come off the bench, Jazz get a better version of Enes Kanter who can spread the floor for less money plus Splitter who would be a great guy to pair up with Favors, and getting rid of Burke gives more minutes to Dante Exum

Good? Great? So brilliant you're at a loss for words?
 
KD's Framily said:
What do you guys think about this trade?

https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p7ak3u7

Spurs get the problem players so they can work on improving them and turning them into great players while being able to unload one of their worst players, Pistons get 2 expirings along with an actual SF they can run instead of the horrifying 3 big lineup of Smith/Monroe/Drummond they have now, Hawks get an interior defender to come off the bench, Jazz get a better version of Enes Kanter who can spread the floor for less money plus Splitter who would be a great guy to pair up with Favors, and getting rid of Burke gives more minutes to Dante Exum

Good? Great? So brilliant you're at a loss for words?
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No way the Spurs would do that.
 
KD's Framily said:
What do you guys think about this trade?

https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p7ak3u7

Spurs get the problem players so they can work on improving them and turning them into great players while being able to unload one of their worst players, Pistons get 2 expirings along with an actual SF they can run instead of the horrifying 3 big lineup of Smith/Monroe/Drummond they have now, Hawks get an interior defender to come off the bench, Jazz get a better version of Enes Kanter who can spread the floor for less money plus Splitter who would be a great guy to pair up with Favors, and getting rid of Burke gives more minutes to Dante Exum

Good? Great? So brilliant you're at a loss for words?
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Cy said:
No way the Spurs would do that.
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I was hoping Cy would found that the best answer..
 
If Booker isn't going to start he at least needs to start VS The Clippers. At the preseason game I was at Booker played awesome and Kanter stunk VS the Clippers. Happened tonight also.
 
Catchall said:
The Spurs win that trade pretty handily. It's Detroit who would cry foul. They still like KCP. The Jazz also don't get much. I guess the argument is that Splitter is a decent defender.
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Splitter is vital to their team.

Kanter is a horrible defender who doesn't have reliable 3pt range. They would probably prefer playing Matt Bonner over Kanter.

Corey Jospeh is a better backup PG for them since he plays defense.

KCP sucks and I don't think the Spurs are interested in a 2nd year player who can't crack the rotation when they have much more reliable options.

Not sure why a Championship team wants to give up a key cog to their Championship team in return for a bunch of young guys who are questionable talents.
 
For as much as Kanter and Burke struggled, I wouldn't get rid of him just to have him gone. If there's not a decent trade to be made, let Kanter play out the season and see what RFA holds. If they have to bench him, then so be it. You have to play defense. He's got to improve at that end, or be replaced. Burke should probably stay as the starter until at least the All Star break. If a good trade opportunity comes available, you jump on it. Otherwise, you play things out and see what pieces you can add to your core of Favors, Hayward and Exum. Burks is, at worst, a solid 6th man and Gobert/Hood both have long term potential as well. This year is going to be about growing pains. You worry more about the guys who go backwards, and less about the guys who improve before the end of the season. I'm not sure how Burke and Kanter fit into the long term plans, but they're both still young enough that they can be valuable pieces off the bench before you have to just dump them.
 
Cy said:
Yeah, I think trade value for Burke will peak in his 3rd year, same with Gobert.
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Not if they don't show signs of improvement. If Trey continues to show signs that he's at or near a ceiling, then his trade value drops.

Gobert will get better.
 
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