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Cyrone Torbin said:
Really think if Burks was given the hands off approach you see a worse version of the player currently balling out.
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Why do you think that? He was a great all around player in college.

Everyone comes into the league with some holes in thier game so what makes you think burks would not been able to improve his holes while getting time on the court?

Also playing a young guy some consistent minutes in a consistent role doesnt mean the coach has to be "hands off." Corbin could still coach burks while playing him.... i would think anyways
 
Burks with 23 minutes btw.

Hayward at 38.

Burks didnt need rest
 
fishonjazz said:
Burks with 23 minutes btw.

Hayward at 38.

Burks didnt need rest
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I think regardless of minutes this game could be a turning point for Alec. He came in off the bench with just a couple of minutes left and they basically just let him play hero ball, and he took a giant **** on the Sixers. Going forward, you have to think that Corbin remember this.
 
mhindy said:
I think regardless of minutes this game could be a turning point for Alec. He came in off the bench with just a couple of minutes left and they basically just let him play hero ball, and he took a giant **** on the Sixers. Going forward, you have to think that Corbin remember this.
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I think you got the wrong idea of Hero ball and actually making isolation plays that result in scoring +and 1's
 
fishonjazz said:
Why do you think that? He was a great all around player in college.

Everyone comes into the league with some holes in thier game so what makes you think burks would not been able to improve his holes while getting time on the court?

Also playing a young guy some consistent minutes in a consistent role doesnt mean the coach has to be "hands off." Corbin could still coach burks while playing him.... i would think anyways
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I think being on the bench is a great way to learn earlier in your career. Players respond to being on the bench. There is a reward to playing the right way, you get more minutes and a punishment for doing tings the wrong way, you get benched.

I guess I just favor the approach more. I think it works better and is safer. I've said I don;t 100% agree with is allocation of minutes, but I think the general idea is a good one.
 
One game, Kanter is the beast, tonight it's Burks, another night it's Williams... imagine if our core played consistent - we'd be scary.
 
mhindy said:
I think regardless of minutes this game could be a turning point for Alec. He came in off the bench with just a couple of minutes left and they basically just let him play hero ball, and he took a giant **** on the Sixers. Going forward, you have to think that Corbin remember this.
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31 against miami
34 against denver
26 last night

Maybe corbin will finally get the message but i still think hayward favors and burke will get more minutes than alec regardless of what alec does
 
fishonjazz said:
Burks with 23 minutes btw.

Hayward at 38.

Burks didnt need rest
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Hayward got rest in the 4th quarter. It's easier to do with starters because the minutes are more balanced. What do you do with a 6th man? play him 18 straight minutes in the 1st and 3rd half? It's the biggest problem with 6th men who finish. Playing 18 straight minutes is hard no matter what. Doesn't matter if you havent played in a couple of days, that's a lot of time to play without a good rest to gather your energy for a final push, especially when your game is so much based off of your attacking.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I think being on the bench is a great way to learn earlier in your career. Players respond to being on the bench. There is a reward to playing the right way, you get more minutes and a punishment for doing tings the wrong way, you get benched.

I guess I just favor the approach more. I think it works better and is safer. I've said I don;t 100% agree with is allocation of minutes, but I think the general idea is a good one.
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Fair enough. Maybe you are right.

Sure sucks as a fan though when you really like watching a player and you are forced to watch raja bell, cj miles, and randy foye while your eyes bleed.

Maybe it was better for burks though.... i dont know
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Hayward got rest in the 4th quarter. It's easier to do with starters because the minutes are more balanced. What do you do with a 6th man? play him 18 straight minutes in the 1st and 3rd half? It's the biggest problem with 6th men who finish. Playing 18 straight minutes is hard no matter what. Doesn't matter if you havent played in a couple of days, that's a lot of time to play without a good rest to gather your energy for a final push, especially when your game is so much based off of your attacking.
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You definately can play em more than 23.

Or the better solution..... start him
 
fishonjazz said:
You definately can play em more than 23.

Or the better solution..... start him
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Yeah, I was actually against Burks starting at first, but now I think it makes sense with Hayward's struggles. I think Hayward and Burke need another play-maker since neither of them are creating offense for themselves very well (and Burke aint creating offense for anyone right now).

Not going to happen with the record of the current starting lineup though, unless a trade happens.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Yeah, I was actually against Burks starting at first, but now I think it makes sense with Hayward's struggles. I think Hayward and Burke need another play-maker sense neither of them are creating offense for themselves very well (and Burke aint creating offense for anyone right now).

Not going to happen with the record of the current starting lineup though, unless a trade happens.
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Burks seems like he has an ability that is lacking in that starting unit.

Of course the bench would suck but **** it
 
If starting Burks is the only way to get him more than 29 or 23 minutes on nights when he's dominating and the best player in the game, then throw every other argument or reason out the window - he simply has to start.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
If starting Burks is the only way to get him more than 29 or 23 minutes on nights when he's dominating and the best player in the game, then throw every other argument or reason out the window - he simply has to start.
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I think he's better coming off the bench but I don't say that because I don't think he can handle starting, I just think we need to be able to give that punch to the mouth to the other team. He def needs minutes when he's producing though. Also, Corbin is an idiot.
 
VINYLONE said:
I think he's better coming off the bench but I don't say that because I don't think he can handle starting, I just think we need to be able to give that punch to the mouth to the other team. He def needs minutes when he's producing though. Also, Corbin is an idiot.
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How will we ever know if he never starts. Didn't he average 19/5/5 while Hayward was out...
 
fishonjazz said:
Burks seems like he has an ability that is lacking in that starting unit.

Of course the bench would suck but **** it
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I'm really liking Burks right now, and desperately want to see him start. I think RJ is good enough to be the third option off the bench with Kanter as the second option. With Hayward and Burks starting, whoever is playing worse of Burks and Hayward, that person comes out at the 7minute mark and then comes back at the 10 minute mark to play with the second unit and finishes he quarter. Maybe I'm dreaming, but to me this seems like a good idea.
 
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