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Gary Payton Respects John Stockton

carolinajazz said:
...basically all hogwash! The Jazz got hosed by Dick Brevetta in that 6th game.....would have won that 7th game without question! Jordan cost Stockton and Malone two rings. The Jazz had enough to beat anybody else both years! Bill Simmons should be ashamed of himself for dissing either Stockton or Malone for anything basketball related!
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Look at his stats for post season and regular season. There should have been no way that Stockton/Malone shouldn't have done more in the post season. Their numbers dropped dramatically.

If you are mad that they didn't call the "jordan push" a foul, then you have to call a foul on Karl Malone holding Barkley back on "the shot". They don't call a lot of those fouls in the final seconds of games.

Also, Sloan's substitution patterns hurt us in that game against the Bulls. You should have seen his 3rd quarter lineup.

It is only put under a microscope by Jazz fans because of implications, but you don't call a foul there because B-Russ slipped and the nudge wasn't enough to make him slip that much. yeah, the Jazz probably would have won a game 7 in Utah. But it shouldn't have come down to that.

EDIT: Also, Jazz STILL had a chance to tie/win and Malone lost the ball. As much his fault as it is Jordan's "shot".
 
YB85 said:
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It occurs to me that CarolinaJazz might be one of the longest-running trolls currently around on the internet. That is a long-*** time to do a character. And a vaguely racist Utah Jazz basketball fan, at that.
 
carolinajazz said:
.....if I were Stockton I'd twitter Payton and say: "Sorry, can't make it.....previous engagement.......hope you can find one of your trash talking punk buddies to do the honors!"
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So wait...Gary Payton is trash talking punk but Reggie Miller is someone you would pay to see?

Keep the laughs coming, KKKarolinajazz. Keep 'em coming.
 
Urzajazz said:
Look at his stats for post season and regular season. There should have been no way that Stockton/Malone shouldn't have done more in the post season. Their numbers dropped dramatically.

If you are mad that they didn't call the "jordan push" a foul, then you have to call a foul on Karl Malone holding Barkley back on "the shot". They don't call a lot of those fouls in the final seconds of games.

Also, Sloan's substitution patterns hurt us in that game against the Bulls. You should have seen his 3rd quarter lineup.

It is only put under a microscope by Jazz fans because of implications, but you don't call a foul there because B-Russ slipped and the nudge wasn't enough to make him slip that much. yeah, the Jazz probably would have won a game 7 in Utah. But it shouldn't have come down to that.

EDIT: Also, Jazz STILL had a chance to tie/win and Malone lost the ball. As much his fault as it is Jordan's "shot".
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....the Brevetta hose had nothing to do with fouls, push offs, or slips! He disallowed our 3 pointer that beat the clock....and counted a 3 pointer that clearly did not beat the clock! 6 point swing, bubba! Hard to beat that AND Jordan!
 
YB85 said:
So wait...Gary Payton is trash talking punk but Reggie Miller is someone you would pay to see?

Keep the laughs coming, KKKarolinajazz. Keep 'em coming.
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.....yeah, Reggie talked some trash, too....but generally it was directed to Spike Lee who started it!
 
tatermoog said:
It occurs to me that CarolinaJazz might be one of the longest-running trolls currently around on the internet. That is a long-*** time to do a character. And a vaguely racist Utah Jazz basketball fan, at that.
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....not racist at all! Just don't like some NBA players and completely despise others! However, I truly admire players who dignify the game and respect the way real basketball should be played!
 
Didn't like the way he'd chew that gum out of the side of his mouth, smirky smile....and then say something semi-unprofessional. I'll bet dollars to donuts that in a pickup game, he'd choose all his homies before he'd even consider taking Stockton!
 
carolinajazz said:
Didn't like the way he'd chew that gum out of the side of his mouth, smirky smile....and then say something semi-unprofessional. I'll bet dollars to donuts that in a pickup game, he'd choose all his homies before he'd even consider taking Stockton!
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Stockton is one of his homies, homie.
 
He should have respect for Stockton. EVERY player should past or present. Stockton is a legend. I respect Payton for his comments on Stock. Everyone should respect what he brought to basketball. His Assist's totals record is almost unbeatable. And no one ran the floor like Stockton, no one ever will. He is arguably the best point guard to pl ay in NBA history. I have followed the Jazz since the late 80's. I am yet to see a point guard facilitate the ball the way he did.
 
Lakers_Slapper said:
He should have respect for Stockton. EVERY player should past or present. Stockton is a legend. I respect Payton for his comments on Stock. Everyone should respect what he brought to basketball. His Assist's totals record is almost unbeatable. And no one ran the floor like Stockton, no one ever will. He is arguably the best point guard to pl ay in NBA history. I have followed the Jazz since the late 80's. I am yet to see a point guard facilitate the ball the way he did.
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I would agree. But I think it would be better to class a few types of pgs to measure them. e.g. there are stockton type of pg's, new age d-rose type of pg's then again, pgs who have great fundemental but forward height so they are really convertible in the rotation. Stockton is the best of his kind I have seen too.
 
Awesome memories of Stockton/ Payton matchups. Worth the price of admissions, plus some. Both amazing PGs, lots of mutual respect, worked their arses off every play, thrived on the competition on both ends. A matchup for the ages. Payton had amazing athleticism and IQ. I have no doubt that if Payton got in HOF first, Stock would have asked him to present, not Isaih.
 
I remember when I was a kid Gary came to Moscow and destroyed the Vandals like they were 5 year old girls. It was the most dominating athletic performance I have ever personally seen.

Gary had one of the sweetest floaters of all time. He truly was one of the greats.
 
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