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George Hill didn't score back to back 20pt games once last season

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Curry, Lillard, and Paul pretty much make it impossible for a 4th PG to be an all-star in the west.

Has there ever 4 PGs on one AS team? Isn't that basically why Conley has never made one?

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There was 4 last year in the west: Lillard, Paul, Curry and Westbrook. Although Lillard was an injury replacement along with Cousins and Dirk. You are forgetting Westbrook who is probably a lock. I think Hill might make it in if he keeps up this level of play and/or an injury. If we have a better record than Clippers he could get in over Paul. If we have a much better record I could see Lillard getting left out again.

Kobe is off the list this year. Klay might make it but he is probably going to struggle to get his stats this season. Tim Duncan is gone. There might be some openings for Jazz players this year if we have a good record.
 
He had 14 >20 point games, 5 of them were back to back, one instance he had a back-to-back-to-back series of games where he scored over 20 points. Keep in mind this was all done in a truncated season where he was out with a knee injury for the first couple of months. George Hill played in 43 games in the 2014-2015 season. Could he have sustained what he did over the last two months of a season over an entire season? Who knows. Maybe with the right coaching-- which is what I'm getting at in this thread.


Really, when looking at the game log, the month of March (and perhaps April to an extent) are the only two months where he has cranked out a level of play that approaches what he's currently doing.

But even when he averaged 19.4ppg a month in March of 2015, he shot 35% from 3. In April he averaged 15.5ppg, but had some of his most consistent scoring sequences from a game-to-game basis in that month.

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So far this season, George Hill is averaging 20/5/3, shooting 54% (WTF) from the field and 43% from three. 26.6 PER.

You would also need to explain why Hill didn't hit this level of play while playing with Paul George prior to the arrival of Monta Ellis.

Again, to me, it strikes me as the classic example of forcing players into a system as opposed to building a system around your players' strengths. George Hill is honestly on his way to become an all-star, and I'm not sure how many people in the entire world had that as a prediction at the start of the season.

Prior to Ellis, there was Lance Stephenson highjacking possessions ;)
Lance was there until 13/14. In the summer of 14 Paul George's leg broke. Hill was killing it as the showrunner in 14/15. No coincidence here. There was also David West isos still back then there, to technically 2 go-to guys were out/gone in 14/15.

Simply comparing stats between 14/15 and now, his per 36 were
SeasonAgeTmLgPosGGSMPFGFGAFG%3P3PA3P%2P2PA2P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2014-1528INDNBAPG433612677.215.2.4772.05.5.3585.39.7.5443.24.1.7900.74.45.16.31.30.42.03.219.7
2016-1730UTANBAPG772378.114.9.5412.45.6.4325.69.3.6073.23.6.8750.52.63.05.31.10.31.22.421.7

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They're not that different when you consider that right now he's hitting shots insanely efficiently and never turns it over. Not sustainable IMO and I was one of the first who was pimping Hill hard this summer(I didn't really post much over it, so you could easily check my history)

The advanced stats highlight that as well:

SeasonAgeTmLgPosGMPPERTS%3PArFTrORB%DRB%TRB%AST%STL%BLK%TOV%USG%OWSDWSWSWS/48OBPMDBPMBPMVORP
2014-1528INDNBAPG43126721.5.579.361.2672.213.37.831.41.80.910.323.83.71.65.4.2035.40.25.62.4
2016-1730UTANBAPG723726.5.659.378.2451.58.55.129.91.60.76.923.41.20.21.4.2809.5-1.58.00.6

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I'm hyped though that he's feeling it right now, am happy his honeymoon phase helped the Jazz power through Favors and Hayward's injuries and hope it continues as long as possible.

It's encouraging because Hill took a backseat to a player of Hayward's offensive calibre before the Ellis era. A point you're missing.

Hill's just a very smart player. He'll get the opportunity within possessions as analyzed earlier the Jazz do a ton of read and react motion strong PnR, which sometimes works, sometimes doesn't so far. He'll touch the ball on 3/4 possessions he's in the game.
He just getts that sharing is caring, which isn't surprising given that he started off in San Antonio.
All I'm saying is that Hill beasting isn't surprising. I'm still gonna say that his numbers will trend lower over the course of the season, his current efficiency is not sustainable, looks like the Utah honeymoon phase is in full effect.
 
For the record, I have posted positive things about George Hill on this forum for YEARS. I'm betting [MENTION=3073]JustTheTip[/MENTION] can back me up on this. He and I have been on the same exact page as far as this is concerned.

I just saw this mention. Haven't read the whole thread, but I can confirm that this is true.
 
It's a combination of players and coaches. Our offensive system was pathetic when we had Corbin coaching. Despite Hayward and favors playig significant mins, our offense was a sad display. Snyder has drastically improved the ball movement and up tempo style. In addition, we are now playing with its like Hill, Johnson, and Gobert as opposed to Devin Harris, Trey Burke, and Black Hole.

Up tempo style? We are 30th in the league in offensive pace by a mile.
 
There was 4 last year in the west: Lillard, Paul, Curry and Westbrook. Although Lillard was an injury replacement along with Cousins and Dirk. You are forgetting Westbrook who is probably a lock. I think Hill might make it in if he keeps up this level of play and/or an injury. If we have a better record than Clippers he could get in over Paul. If we have a much better record I could see Lillard getting left out again.

Kobe is off the list this year. Klay might make it but he is probably going to struggle to get his stats this season. Tim Duncan is gone. There might be some openings for Jazz players this year if we have a good record.
No way coaches put Hill over Paul, just not possible. Seniority does play a factor in the coach vote.

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I see Hill settling in around 18/5 on 50/40/80. Points will go down as Hayward is back and Favors becomes a bigger factor as he gets healthier. Hood has also emerged, so maybe Hill's points go down more. The great thing about Hill is that he has no ego. His career indicates he's willing to facilitate and let others do the scoring. But we also know he can elevate his scoring when needed. Perfect PG for this team. Now Itah just needs to extend him!
 
I see Hill settling in around 18/5 on 50/40/80. Points will go down as Hayward is back and Favors becomes a bigger factor as he gets healthier. Hood has also emerged, so maybe Hill's points go down more. The great thing about Hill is that he has no ego. His career indicates he's willing to facilitate and let others do the scoring. But we also know he can elevate his scoring when needed. Perfect PG for this team. Now Itah just needs to extend him!

18 seems very high considering who we have around him. I guess somewhere around 15.0.
 
Hill-15
Hood-15
Hayward-19.5
Favors-16.5
Gobert-12

That's 78 points just from our starters.
 
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