Governor of Alabama wants to be your brother...by blurring the line

[LogGrad98]

between church and state. Or more like obliterating it.

https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_alabama_governor_christians

Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley told a church crowd just moments into his new administration that those who have not accepted Jesus as their savior are not his brothers and sisters, shocking some critics who questioned Tuesday whether he can be fair to non-Christians.

"Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother," Bentley said Monday, his inauguration day, according to The Birmingham News.

Nothing wrong with wanting folks to be Christians. Something definitely wrong with making it your gubernatorial agenda. The flavor of Christianity he favors is yet to be divulged.

Maybe, become a Christian and you get welfare. Don't want to? Well, darn it, the money just ran out, imagine that.

Thoughts?

 

[Gameface]

Doesn't surprise me much, unfortunately. Bush senior said this

"I don't know that atheists should be regarded as citizens, nor should they be regarded as patriotic. This is one nation under God."

 

[Bronco70]

As someone who thinks the whole sep-of-church-and-state thing has been twisted into a tangled knot of agenda driven spin, this guy is way over the line.

And this?

"I don't know that atheists should be regarded as citizens, nor should they be regarded as patriotic. This is one nation under God."

I thought the whole point of founding this nation and it's constitution was to get away from this type of ignorance.

 

[UB]

Go to church already, you ****ing heathens.

 

[YB85]

Nobody ****s with the Jesus.

 

[UB]

You said it, mon.


Especially not in Alabama.



But ****ing kudos to this guy and his ilk, for the balls:

https://www.alabamaatheist.org/

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

Alabama: Where bigotry is still going strong.

 

[sirkickyass]

Not to be "that" guy, but this is a little weird coming out of a Utah message board. The state hasn't had a non-Mormon governor since the 1950s.

Not saying the Alabama guy is right (cause he's not) but I think this is an instance of stone throwing in glass houses.

 

[Stickler]

Not to be "that" guy, but this is a little weird coming out of a Utah message board. The state hasn't had a non-Mormon governor since the 1950s.

Not saying the Alabama guy is right (cause he's not) but I think this is an instance of stone throwing in glass houses.

I disagree. I think that's a pretty knee-jerk thing to say. Do the posters making these comments have a history of being anti-non-Mormon? Do Utah governors have a history of saying that non-Mormons are not their brothers? (Outside of the Mormon-linguo "brother," "sister," "elder," tropes?)

 

[UB]

Not to be "that" guy, but this is a little weird coming out of a Utah message board. The state hasn't had a non-Mormon governor since the 1950s.

Not saying the Alabama guy is right (cause he's not) but I think this is an instance of stone throwing in glass houses.

These are two separate issues. Yes, Utah is a quasi-theocratic government, but Alabama homeboy is being called out for publicly invoking his God into his planned interactions with his constituents. Here in Utah, that kind of angle is almost always cleverly disguised with esoteric terminology.

 

[LogGrad98]

Not to be "that" guy, but this is a little weird coming out of a Utah message board. The state hasn't had a non-Mormon governor since the 1950s.

Not saying the Alabama guy is right (cause he's not) but I think this is an instance of stone throwing in glass houses.

If you notice, I live in Reno, so this is not, per se, a "utah message board" . And despite current stereotypes and bigotry, Utahns are perfectly capable of rational thought and understanding of socio-political issues beyond the Wasatch Front. Whether they actually make an attempt to do so is open for debate, but the capability is there.



Jus' sayin'.

 

[sirkickyass]

I disagree. I think that's a pretty knee-jerk thing to say. Do the posters making these comments have a history of being anti-non-Mormon? Do Utah governors have a history of saying that non-Mormons are not their brothers? (Outside of the Mormon-linguo "brother," "sister," "elder," tropes?)

The statement that originally made me blanche was the one about "especially not in Alabama." All I'm saying is that if there is one region of the country that can't afford to look down its nose at the unofficial melding of church and state in various areas of life it's Utah, where being a member of a specific church is a de facto requirement to even be Governor.

By comparison the last five governors of Alabama have been Missionary Baptists, Primitive Baptists, Roman Catholics, and Episcopalians.

All Christians sure, but at least there's some sect diversity.

These are two separate issues. Yes, Utah is a quasi-theocratic government, but Alabama homeboy is being called out for publicly invoking his God into his planned interactions with his constituents. Here in Utah, that kind of angle is almost always cleverly disguised with esoteric terminology.

But let's be clear here, it's only "disguised" and I would dispute cleverly. I would venture to say the mainstream LDS church is more powerful politically in Utah than any particular Alabama-based Baptist congregation is in Alabama.

If you notice, I live in Reno, so this is not, per se, a "utah message board".

And most of the moderators don't live in Utah either. That said, the majority of members live in Utah. I don't think that's disputable.

And despite current stereotypes and bigotry, Utahns are perfectly capable of rational thought and understanding of socio-political issues beyond the Wasatch Front. Whether they actually make an attempt to do so is open for debate, but the capability is there.

Didn't dispute, merely saying that Utah does not operate from a position of strength when mocking other states for excessive entanglement with religion.

I mean come on, this isn't godless Delaware or something.



Jus' sayin'.[/QUOTE]

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Roll Tide, roll.

 

[Archie Moses]

Not to be "that" guy, but this is a little weird coming out of a Utah message board. The state hasn't had a non-Mormon governor since the 1950s.

Not saying the Alabama guy is right (cause he's not) but I think this is an instance of stone throwing in glass houses.

You're a moron.

 

[GVC]

You're a moron.

Intentional irony (re: Stone throwing in glass houses)?

 

[dodo]

Nobody ****s with the Jesus.

Hey hey, easy there fella. My God can beat up your God. As a matter of fact, his potency is more omni than yours.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Keeping the tradition alive, earning the George Wallace medal of backwoods, hick retardation.

 

[franklin]

So do those non-Christian Mormons have to move out of Alabama now?

 

[franklin]

Not to be "that" guy, but this is a little weird coming out of a Utah message board. The state hasn't had a non-Mormon governor since the 1950s.

Not saying the Alabama guy is right (cause he's not) but I think this is an instance of stone throwing in glass houses.

You have a very peculiar view of things. I wonder if you're just trying to stir the pot. FYI, Utahans loved that God loving Bush Jr.

 

[Archie Moses]

You have a very peculiar view of things. I wonder if you're just trying to stir the pot. FYI, Utahans loved that God loving Bush Jr.

Funny thing is, when I saw that kicky posted in this thread I thought to myself, "Dude is gonna some how bring Mormons and Utah into this post." Needless to say, I wasn't let down. He's gifted at that type of stuff.