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Great move by KOC, whats next?

As everyone has mentioned, the Jazz would be done if Jefferson goes through unless they could somehow dump AK. If they drop AK then IMHO, they need to get back a stud 2. If Okur is healthy then the tandem of Memo, Jefferson and Millsap should be competitive. They can throw Doufus out there to hack someone a bit for 10 mins a game or so. What they really need is someone other than D-Will that can create and make outside shots. We know CJ is more of a spot shooter and if Brewer comes back on the cheap then he does a nice job running the baseline, but they need someone who can create their own shot and spread the floor, command some attention even some double teams, etc.

There aren't a lot of guys out there that can do that, but that is what the Jazz need.
 
I think after this trade they will sign Al Harrington being what is being said on his twitter page. I hope they then go after Anthony Tolliver and maybe midway towards the deadline trade ak to see if you can get a first round pick. I think they are going to use their other trade ex soon as well. Being it is almost up.

If that happened...wow, just wow. To go from the "sky is falling, we're a sure lottery team" to perhaps fighting for the 2 seed in the WC?
If we got both Al's, I think we'd probably sign Ronnie B. and call it a day. I don't see how the Jazz re-sign Matthews. The MLE would have to be used for Harrington and Brewer. Jazz would obviously keep AK at SF. I say retain AK until the deadline. That gives 1/2 season for Hayward to develop. AK/Hayward share time at SF. CJ and Brewer divide minutes at SG.

Then at the deadline, you try to trade AK for a starting wing, and hopefully take back less salary than what you trade to get you under the tax threshold.
 
Big Al basically puts us at the tax line with 9 guys. That's with Fes dropped out. So we need 3 mins, which puts us 1 - 1.5 over the Tax, and then the last guy. It has to be a wing since we only have 3. If they're willing to go 5/6 over, they can sign Wes. If they want to keep costs down, they go bargain basement. Since they said they'd do 2 years in the tax if necessary, I'll bet they'd consider Wes. I think it comes down to whether they like Wes' whole deal more than whether they can fit him in.
 
As everyone has mentioned, the Jazz would be done if Jefferson goes through unless they could somehow dump AK. If they drop AK then IMHO, they need to get back a stud 2. If Okur is healthy then the tandem of Memo, Jefferson and Millsap should be competitive. They can throw Doufus out there to hack someone a bit for 10 mins a game or so. What they really need is someone other than D-Will that can create and make outside shots. We know CJ is more of a spot shooter and if Brewer comes back on the cheap then he does a nice job running the baseline, but they need someone who can create their own shot and spread the floor, command some attention even some double teams, etc.

There aren't a lot of guys out there that can do that, but that is what the Jazz need.

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Enough with Al Harrington's twitter page...he also said that he "loves the Magic" just yesterday.
 
I have to believe were gonna try and move memo. Al is younger and better... memos contract sucks and ny wants a shooting center. I doubt we see any additional moves w/o memo gone.

I would love for that to happen but the Memo contract is now as bad as AK's. Even the Knicks wouldn't take that deal.(Remember Isaiah's gone) and they are hoping to land Melo.
 
Big Al basically puts us at the tax line with 9 guys. That's with Fes dropped out. So we need 3 mins, which puts us 1 - 1.5 over the Tax, and then the last guy. It has to be a wing since we only have 3. If they're willing to go 5/6 over, they can sign Wes. If they want to keep costs down, they go bargain basement. Since they said they'd do 2 years in the tax if necessary, I'll bet they'd consider Wes. I think it comes down to whether they like Wes' whole deal more than whether they can fit him in.

I wouldn't be suprised if the Miller family and Jazz FO now think that bringing Matthews back is worth going deeper into tax territory.
 

I'm not quite ready to put my faith in Hayward. At best, he will need a couple of years to come into his own. This year is the year that Utah can make a splash with AK's contract coming off the books. If we could get a stud shooting guard then assuming Memo is able to come back this team could be very, very good.
 
I wouldn't be suprised if the Miller family and Jazz FO now think that bringing Matthews back is worth going deeper into tax territory.

No, Wes is gone. He is already grossly overpaid, now we double that with the luxury tax? Forget about it.
 
What makes you think that?

Because the Jazz say time and time again that they'll pay the tax for a team that can contend. Now that they've landed Jefferson, maybe they feel they're too close to being a 2 seed in the west so they decide to retain their starting SG.

Not saying I would agree with that line of thinking, but I could see them doing that.
 
Matthews is not the difference in us contending for a championship or not. We need a shooting guard that can put up 18-20 ppg and shoot a good percentage while doing it and is big enough and quick enough to defend the Kobes of the world. Matthews is a decent defender and a great story, but he isn't that guy. We need a quasi-superstar type of a guy to contend for a championship at the 2, not Wes.
 
Andre Iguodala anyone? I really think o'Conner and his ties to th 76ers might be able to pull this one off...it will hurt losing the financial flexability next year, but Kirilenko for iggy and change (Smith) is the move i would be pushing for. It's obvious the Jazz wanted to upgrade the 2 (Foye and Childress) without losing Kirilenko, but for Iggy I would do it in a heartbeat, he is always healthy, plays great d and can create his own shot, plus he is younger at 26 run him with Jefferson and Dwill for the next 3 years to see what we've got -
 
jazzman12 said:
I wouldn't be suprised if the Miller family and Jazz FO now think that bringing Matthews back is worth going deeper into tax territory.


What makes you think that?

Obviously since Miller approved going over the luxury tax last season to keep Maynor and Brewer. I think the Millers thought we had a "contender" last season with Boozer putting up great numbers, AK playing effectively and us moving up the playoff ladder. Then Greg made KOC do the Harpring/Maynor dump despite Maynor being a great quality backup to Deron, even teaming with him in the backcourt at times. Then the team was playing great and he dumped Brewer. Of course, AK then went down, then Okur...end of story.

Point is, Miller has shown he'll dump smaller parts to save money. If Brewer was run out of town because his agent wouldn't sign a reasonable extension prior to last season, I don't see him paying 2x that much for Wesley. I really, really like Wesley. But I don't think he's worth nearly $7M/per..
 
Andre Iguodala anyone? I really think o'Conner and his ties to th 76ers might be able to pull this one off...it will hurt losing the financial flexability next year, but Kirilenko for iggy and change (Smith) is the move i would be pushing for. It's obvious the Jazz wanted to upgrade the 2 (Foye and Childress) without losing Kirilenko, but for Iggy I would do it in a heartbeat, he is always healthy, plays great d and can create his own shot, plus he is younger at 26 run him with Jefferson and Dwill for the next 3 years to see what we've got -

Iggy is not on the block though, he is cheaper than AK, puts up better numbers, and plays 82 games a year. We will probably giving a #1 to Minnesota so can't entice them with picks either. We cant get Iggy.
 
We will be over the tax if we acquire Jefferson. I highly doubt we sign anyone for much more than the minimum unless we are able to dump AK's contract.
I just wrote a piece on this. Worst case, the Jazz may have sacrificed 8 assets in order to sign Big Al (1-2 draft picks, 1 TPE traded, up to 3 TPEs that they might now let expire, plus the MLE and the BAE that they might not use).

I like some of what Big Al brings to the table, but the opportunity cost might be a killer.
 
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