orangello
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I just saw that he missed last night's game.
GSW Draft Pick Watch
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I just saw that he missed last night's game.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Big win for GS. They blew a 14-pt lead against the Clippers in the 4th, but then hit their shots down the stretch. Clippers are actually worse than the Jazz from the FT line; they only hit 54% tonight.
Sacramento lost. So now the Jazz need Detroit to have a bad road trip. Now that I've said that, how likely is it that Detroit smokes the Jazz on Monday night?
Sacramento lost. So now the Jazz need Detroit to have a bad road trip. Now that I've said that, how likely is it that Detroit smokes the Jazz on Monday night?
As a Jazz fan... Nowadays there's nothing better than seeing a GSW win.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Seeing a Bell, CJ, Howard or Harris trade would be pretty sweet!
I know.. but realistically I don't think you can get a decent player out of trading those guys.
At least with the GSW pick we'll have someone we can probably build around (*cough* Lillard *cough*)
Weezur
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This GS team is amazing. They were projected to be like 5th-8th worst team in the league...but beating Dallas and Clips on a back to back is elite, especially with the way they did it.
On the standings, I always look at the loss column.
GS, Utah, Minny, Portlan, and Pheonix are all 21 losses. Houston and Dallas (7th and 8th playoff team) are both 20 losses.
So in other words, 7 teams are seperated by <1 game
On the standings, I always look at the loss column.
GS, Utah, Minny, Portlan, and Pheonix are all 21 losses. Houston and Dallas (7th and 8th playoff team) are both 20 losses.
So in other words, 7 teams are seperated by <1 game
IMO they could lose a couple at this point. They're 17-21, and I project them finishing 10-18, for a final 27-39 record. They don't need that many wins to 8th worst. I have them projected at 10th worst record right now, so I'd like to see them come down a bit (without tanking). It would be great if Milwaukee and/or Cleveland could pass them in the standings.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
This. That people continue rooting for the Warriors to win baffles me.
Well if we want the Jazz to get two picks then we want the Jazz to lose and the Warriors to lose just a little bit. If they keep winning then we are assured of their pick but it will be a disappointment if the the pick is lower than the 16th pick. There is a possibility that the Jazz pick will be the worse of the two. Best case scenario is the GS pick is the 8th pick and the Jazz win the lottery. Yes I know I am overly optimistic.
The Warriors won't make the playoffs, don't worry.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
If this happened, I'd crap my pants.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Do you see how close some of the other teams are?
The battle for the last three playoff spots in the WC, where 3 games separates the 6th seed from the 11th team in the conference resembles the battle for those lottery spots. GS is only up 3 1/2 games on Detroit and 1 1/2 on Cleveland and Milwaukee. If those three all caught GS, they'd fall to the #7 lottery slot. And don't discount NJ or Sacramento. Both teams still have 6-7 more home games vs. away. Playing a little better than .500 at home means they can quickly make up 3-4 games in a hurry (and Sacramento has a great home record).
If GS is only a couple games away from the 7th spot with 20 games to play, you KNOW they're going to tank in order to keep their pick. The reverse happened a couple of years ago. NY continued to play well, knowing they were losing their pick anyway, while other teams tanked hoping to land in the top 5. The NY pick gradually slipped from #5 to #9 over the last month of the season. This year, I think the draft has a consensus #1 in Davis and then the rest of the Top 10 is debatable. So there's not a real need to tank if you're already sitting in that range. But there's DEFINITELY incentive to do so if it means not getting a pick at all in what is supposed to be one of the deepest drafts in the past several years.
People act like the the pick will revert to nothing if the Jazz don't get it this year. I'm not going to root for a team that could sniff the playoffs if they go on a hot-streak/Steph Curry can stay healthy.
I agree that now is probably the best year that the Jazz could get the pick. I root for and will continue to root for mostly losses with some wins. We have a decent enough sample size, the Warriors somehow aren't obviously one of the 7 worst teams in the NBA. If you put ANY stock into Hollinger's projections (I think it's the best we've got for a quick-glance appraisal that also has methodology driven by data), there are 6 teams just in the east that will finish with a worse record. In the west, you can bet Sacramento and New Orleans will finish worse. That's eight. Add in Utah, Milwaukee, Phoenix, and even NY to the hunt, and you've got a pretty nice buffer. To add to that, the odds that a team jumps from 8th worst or better into the lottery is TINY (dice have no memory).
Of all of those likely lottery teams mentioned, no one can say they just beat the best team in their division and completely drubbed the defending champions.
I agree that now is probably the best year that the Jazz could get the pick. I root for and will continue to root for mostly losses with some wins. We have a decent enough sample size, the Warriors somehow aren't obviously one of the 7 worst teams in the NBA. If you put ANY stock into Hollinger's projections (I think it's the best we've got for a quick-glance appraisal that also has methodology driven by data), there are 6 teams just in the east that will finish with a worse record. In the west, you can bet Sacramento and New Orleans will finish worse. That's eight. Add in Utah, Milwaukee, Phoenix, and even NY to the hunt, and you've got a pretty nice buffer. To add to that, the odds that a team jumps from 8th worst or better into the lottery is TINY (dice have no memory).
Of all of those likely lottery teams mentioned, no one can say they just beat the best team in their division and completely drubbed the defending champions.
This. I'd rather be absolutely sure we get the pick than be in the "too close for comfort" zone.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Well, it could be the difference between getting a starting small forward at #8-10 or a guy like Kosta Koufos if the W's make the playoffs next season (or even finish 13-14 in a weak draft year). Or even second round picks if the W's end up in the high lottery through 2013.
The Jazz aren't drafting at #8 if y'all are getting what you seemingly are desperately clamoring for.
Not sure what you mean by this......
IF we get the GS pick it most likely will be in that range if all goes well.
So yes, Utah would be drafting around the #8 position.... but the poster did mention 8-10 which could be very possible.
Utah's pick on the other hand should be in the #11-14 range giving us 2 picks in one of the deeper drafts in the past 10 years.
VS... getting the pick the following year in a weak draft (Since most underclassmen will have come out) and it being a 10-14 pick (Which would be a 15-20 pick most likely in this draft)