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GT: Jazz @ Spurs Jan 15th 6 p.m. - AT&T Center, San Antonio, TX

The Jazz have a 22 year old 3rd year shooting guard (a position of need for about 15 years on this team) and after three starts he's getting 23 ppg on 54% FGs. Everybody on this board should be on his nuts. It seems like half the threads the last couple days have been about Burks - that number should probably be 75%. Yes, it is just three games, but it's all we have at this point. If Burks continues to start and begins to stink it up, then we should get off his nuts and rip him to shreds. Until that time, if you're a Jazz fan, sit back and enjoy the young star.

Awesome.

Really all of the young guys are playing like i thought they could if just given the time on the court to show it.

The young guys are very fun to watch right now.... just wish we wouldnt have had to wait so long to see em.

And the demise of the tank is unfortunate, but damn..... trey, gordon, alec, derrick, and enes have me believing that this team will be in the playoffs next year even if our draft pick doesnt end up contributing alot.

Ya it sucks that we could miss out on the piece that could make us real contenders but these young guys in the playoffs would be fun too.
 
Wow, that was a great game. We looked good against the best team(debatably) in the league and lost. That's perfect right now. Also Core young dudes all looking good. Of course there were mistakes, but We have a bunch of ~22 year olds who have a half a year playing together. I think there is much to be happy about.

Burks and Kanter have joined Burke, Favors, Hayward as legit players. Aside from Carkar and DouchJazzer being, so painfully negative, this was a great Jazz night .
 
I didn't mean it personal like that, but you understood what I meant.

Who was the guy he danced around again? I didn't recognize his name.

Jeff Ayres (born Jeffrey Curtis Orcutt on April 29, 1987), formerly known as Jeff Pendergraph. Regarded by Popovich and Frank Vogel as a good defensive player.
 
After watching this game, I feel we are just a good bench, and a couple years of growth of the core 5 from at least contending not necessarily winning a chip. Easily this was Kanters best game ever. I watched the game on Espn, and it was as if these guys had never seen Kanter play. At one point they compared him to Kevin McHale. He had all the moves tonight it was a pleasure to watch.
 
Awesome.

Really all of the young guys are playing like i thought they could if just given the time on the court to show it.

The young guys are very fun to watch right now.... just wish we wouldnt have had to wait so long to see em.

And the demise of the tank is unfortunate, but damn..... trey, gordon, alec, derrick, and enes have me believing that this team will be in the playoffs next year even if our draft pick doesnt end up contributing alot.

Ya it sucks that we could miss out on the piece that could make us real contenders but these young guys in the playoffs would be fun too.

This team could end up like the early 2000's Pistons team. No real superstars just 5 star level players with good chemistry and fit.
 
I'm not sure Corbin plays a key role in the Core5 success. The bad thing is that he will benefit from it probably getting the extension.

So why does Corbin get all the blame when the team was losing but now the team is playing a lot better he gets very little praise. So it was Corbin's fault the players weren't playing well but now that they are playing well but it is the players who are making the difference. :confused:
 
So why does Corbin get all the blame when the team was losing but now the team is playing a lot better he gets very little praise. So it was Corbin's fault the players weren't playing well but now that they are playing well but it is the players who are making the difference. :confused:

Cause Corbin sucks!
 
So why does Corbin get all the blame when the team was losing but now the team is playing a lot better he gets very little praise. So it was Corbin's fault the players weren't playing well but now that they are playing well but it is the players who are making the difference. :confused:

Part of the problem is that, at least in the case of Burks, it's only happening - just as it always has in the past when Burks has had a jump in minutes - because Corbin has been forced into it due to injury.

Even tonight, Kanter still got just 26 minutes - yes it's improvement, but probably still 8-10 less minutes than he should be playing.
 
So why does Corbin get all the blame when the team was losing but now the team is playing a lot better he gets very little praise. So it was Corbin's fault the players weren't playing well but now that they are playing well but it is the players who are making the difference. :confused:

Message board clique politics.
 
So why does Corbin get all the blame when the team was losing but now the team is playing a lot better he gets very little praise. So it was Corbin's fault the players weren't playing well but now that they are playing well but it is the players who are making the difference. :confused:

Coaches are blamed for what they can control. The type of offensive/defensive scheme, rotations, in-game adjustments, etc. So just because players are playing well it doesn't mean it's a direct reflection of good coaching and just because players are playing poor it isn't a direct reflection of poor coaching.
 
Can't wait for Locke to claim the moral victory on tomorrow's tip off. I'll write the script for him: 1) We had no chance to win so it's practically supernatural we didn't lose by 30; 2) the guys "never quit" and "fought hard" (daily Ty hand job); we might have won with Hayward (daily Hayward hand job conveniently ignoring the Denver game).
 
When Ty is straightening his tie hoping to be considered for the Weber State job next year, he might want to study Pop's game tape. The Spurs are magical. Watch their game clocks. They run quick early sets, guys space methodically, they do the drive and kick, but what makes them special is how quick they reset their offense. Once the first action doesn't work, Parker has the ball in his hands and he's running a PnR. Then watch how guys know to cut off that PnR. It's beautiful.

What we do: Take 15 seconds waiting for convoluted screens and back screens to work 20% of the time, then watch some spastic shot. Sure we get some decent shots off our long setups, but we can't reset. The good news is we're getting better play in the post. The bad news is we took 8 3's tonight. And we average 18, 26th in the league. Why does every Ty team average bottom 5 in 3's? Seriously?
 
When Ty is straightening his tie hoping to be considered for the Weber State job next year, he might want to study Pop's game tape. The Spurs are magical. Watch their game clocks. They run quick early sets, guys space methodically, they do the drive and kick, but what makes them special is how quick they reset their offense. Once the first action doesn't work, Parker has the ball in his hands and he's running a PnR. Then watch how guys know to cut off that PnR. It's beautiful.

What we do: Take 15 seconds waiting for convoluted screens and back screens to work 20% of the time, then watch some spastic shot. Sure we get some decent shots off our long setups, but we can't reset. The good news is we're getting better play in the post. The bad news is we took 8 3's tonight. And we average 18, 26th in the league. Why does every Ty team average bottom 5 in 3's? Seriously?

dont forget the give the ball to favors between halfcourt and 3 point line.
it seems to happen a lot.
our big man getting the ball between 3 point line and mid court.


seriously WTF is the point.
its waistingg 3-6 seconds
 
Can anyone explain this to me? When is Burks going to be allowed to just beat the guy in front of him? It's obvious he's better one on one than in the PnR. If the idea is to coach him into playing in the system, fine. But why wouldn't you get the ball into Burks' hands as the shot clock winds down and let him create? It's what makes him unique, and we're not developing it at all.
 
Can anyone explain this to me? When is Burks going to be allowed to just beat the guy in front of him? It's obvious he's better one on one than in the PnR. If the idea is to coach him into playing in the system, fine. But why wouldn't you get the ball into Burks' hands as the shot clock winds down and let him create? It's what makes him unique, and we're not developing it at all.

Last game this is exactly what they did billy. If you look at Burks shots against denver almost all of them were on the short clock were he was able to break down his guy off the dribble and score. They ran the offense then gave it to Burks when they couldn't get anything out of it. They do the same thing with Hayward. But Burks is much better at that part of the game because he can get to the rim and finish at a much higher percent then Hay does.
 
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